[Spellyans] KK ha'n SWF - pronunciation

nicholas williams njawilliams at gmail.com
Sat Aug 9 15:46:38 IST 2008

There can be no disagreement. We are not talking about minor  
differences here and there.
We are talking about the entire sound system of Cornish.
Why do you think I am so opposed to KK? Because it based on  
Ken George invented KK because he believed that Nance had got the  
entire phonemic system of Cornish wrong.
Nance had been wrong not only over minor points like eu and *tj and  
*dj, but in his entire system.
Unified had only two lengths: long and short, so that tasow and mammow  
had the same stressed vowel. In KK
tasow had a half-long vowel and mammow a short one. To say tazzow was  
wrong; it should be ta·zow.
Moreover Unified had single consonants only, whereas according to  
George it also had long consonants.
Thus in the Georgean system mm in omma 'here' was long but in oma 'I  
am' it was short (and I am not talking
about the length of the stressed vowel).
I am sure you will have seen George's book the Pronunciation and  
Spelling of Revived Cornish in which he
sets all hypothetical phonology out in detail.
I and other Celticists and linguists disagree totally with George, but  
that is not the point.
The fact is that in spite of the phonology he espouses, George speaks  
Unified. He makes a few adjustments to
a number of sounds and he has long since abandoned tj and dj, but his  
spoken Cornish lacks a threefold length
and lacks long consonants. What George speaks is closer to UCR than  
KK is, in my view, mistaken.
It is in everybody's view inauthentic.
George himself does not speak it.
What is the point of it?


On 9 Aug 2008, at 13:42, Penny Squire wrote:

> I think that we will have to agree to differ on this, Nicholas.
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