[Spellyans] Europek

ajtrim at msn.com ajtrim at msn.com
Sun Dec 7 20:41:03 GMT 2008


Thanks for your reply.
That sounds promising.

I suggest that several people of different backgrounds proofread this prior to publication. 
I'm not very knowledgeable but I'm a good proofreader.

Please let me know if you need any extra help.


Andrew J. Trim

From: Daniel Prohaska 
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 12:28 PM
To: 'Standard Cornish discussion list' 
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Europek


I’m currently working on an SWF dictionary that includes all forms, Main, Traditional and Late. I also continue to add proposals for Late Variants where I feel they are needed. The bulk of the dictionary is more or less finished, but only partially proofread. Luckily Nicholas keeps providing me with extra words that have thus been excluded in George’s Gerlver Kres. It’s still very much work in progress, so I’m afraid you’ll have to be patient a little while longer.



-----Original Message-----
From: ajtrim at msn.com
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 12:26 AM

“I would very much like to have a dictionary for the newer orthographies (i.e. traditional SWF & KS). I assume that these are in preparation.


All we have at present is a list of words in the SWF specification. It is now 6 months since the SWF specification appeared, and we still cannot use it.

I realise that these things take a lot of time - no real problem there. However, what should we do in the meantime whilst we are waiting?


The best that I have is a copy of the UCR dictionary (though I have dictionaries for KK and UC as well.)


Are there any rules that we could follow to respell UCR so that it would be closer to the newer orthographies?

I know that the result would not be completely accurate, but it may be better than following the dictionary now that we know it is out of date.


Can I assume that the macrons should now be ignored except in monosyllables? Can I assume that the raised full stops are still current information regarding stress?

Are there simple rules for respelling <y> to <i>and for respelling diphthongs, etc?

For example, should we now respell all <ue> to <eu> and all <eu> to <ew>?

That would probably leave a few single or double consonants as the only significant difference, and a few unstressed schwa vowels would have the wrong graphs.

Progression to the newer orthographies would then be a small step - smaller than going from one document to another in the Traditional Cornish texts.



Andrew J. Trim”



From: "Michael Everson" <everson at evertype.com>

Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:33 AM


> On 5 Dec 2008, at 23:44, <ajtrim at msn.com> <ajtrim at msn.com> wrote:


>> How should the combination ewro be pronounced?


> [ˈeʊroʊ], as though <ewrow>


>> The UCR dictionary gives Ewrópek (with o-macron).

>> Is there stress on the ó?


> Of course.


>> Is the o long?


> Vowels are only long in monosyllables.




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