[Spellyans] del 'leaves' and dèl/dell 'so, as'

ajtrim at msn.com ajtrim at msn.com
Sat Dec 13 16:28:07 GMT 2008

I agree for <dell>.

The form <dell> minimises the number of diacritical marks, follows the basic 
rules, distinguishes from another word <del> ("leaves") and is a traditional 

Using the SWF spelling rules, a single final <l> erroneously implies a long 
<e> .

In the case of <war> "on", we have a short vowel but it is not the sound 
that would be expected from <à>.
Instead the sound of <war> "on" is more like the sound of "war" in English.
The form <warr> for "on" would therefore not be correct either.
I would leave it as <war>, though you could use <wär> to indicate the 
non-standard vowel quality.

The Cornish for "aware" is SWF <war> with a short vowel.
You could write "aware" as <wàr> in KS, though you could use <warr> to show 
that the vowel is a regular short <a> (rather than unexpectedly-short, as 
implied by <à>).

In conclusion, I think I would go for <dell> "so" and <del> "leaves", <war> 
"on" and <warr> "aware".


Andrew J. Trim

From: "Michael Everson" <everson at evertype.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 2:19 PM
To: "Spellyans" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
Subject: [Spellyans] del 'leaves' and dèl/dell 'so, as'

> In the SWF and KS we have a rule that in monosyllables a vowel is  short 
> before -ll. So the expected form of the word 'so, as' is <dell>,  just 
> like <pell> 'long'. We can distinguish <del> 'leaves' and <dèl>  'so, as', 
> but why not <dell>? <Dell> also happens to be the form in  KK. Why do we 
> have <del> for 'so, as' in the SWF?
> Ray Chubb told me that Albert Bock had argued against <del> (our  <dèl>) 
> because it would imply that we ought to write <warr> 'on'. We  write 
> <wàr>, but in terms of orthography design I think Albert's view  is 
> incorrect. Yes, both *<warr> and <dell> follow the rule and give  nice 
> predictable short vowels. But <dell> occurs 152 times in the  corpus, so 
> there's certainly no reason to avoid it. True, we don't  like <warr> which 
> contrasts with <war> [wæ:r] 'beware'. But in good  orthography design we 
> should use the predictable rule whenever  possible and mark only 
> exceptions.
> I think we should write <dell> and not <dèl> in Kernowek Standard.
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