[Spellyans] del 'leaves' and dèl/dell 'so, as'

ajtrim at msn.com ajtrim at msn.com
Sun Dec 14 22:50:56 GMT 2008

Yes, I was looking at the phonetic transcriptions in Dan's dictionary.
Are you suggesting different pronunciations?


Andrew J. Trim

From: "Michael Everson" <everson at evertype.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Spellyans] del 'leaves' and dèl/dell 'so, as'

> On 14 Dec 2008, at 21:11, <ajtrim at msn.com> <ajtrim at msn.com> wrote:
>> OK, Michael.
>> Thanks for your explanation.
>> That explains things nicely.
>> I did not realise that it is a rule that <àr> is regularly lowered  in 
>> KS.
> No, short /a/ is regularly lowered before /r/ in the version of  Revived 
> Cornish which we recommend.
> Well, now I could be wrong but I think long /a/ before /r/ is still  [æː], 
> <war> [wæːr].
> If I am wrong I should know so I can work out the rule.
>> It appears inconsistently in the SWF: in <barv> "beard" but not in 
>> <bardh> "bard".
>> It is in <daras> "door" but not in <darbar> "device".
>> It is in <fals> "false" but not in <fals> "scythe".
>> The SWF should distinguish these two sounds of <a>.
> What are you using for your phonetic respellings here? Dan's  dictionary? 
> (I know he has given it out to a few people to look at and  that you are 
> one of them.)
>> You are right, it has to be <wàr> "on" and <war> "aware" in KS.
>> I don't like <warr> for "on".
> Nobody does. :-) But only KS distinguishes the two.
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