[Spellyans] Learn Cornish

Hewitt, Stephen s.hewitt at unesco.org
Wed Dec 3 08:13:24 GMT 2008


Nicholas Williams wrote:
 

I assume that dyhodzhedh and kyngys hanter dogha geyth PC 2912 both contain
dohajedh < *dyworth hanter an jedh 'from the middle of the day, afternoon'. 
The expression at PC 2912 then means 'before halfway through the afternoon
(literally 'after halfway through the day'; cf. afternoon, après midi, etc.)

 
In Breton, diouzh an nos "of/from (B. diouzh = C. dyworth) the night" = "at night" is commonly pronounced either /doez än 'nó:s/ or, especially in the NW and SE, /dah än 'nó:s, dòh än 'nó:s/. "In daytime" is actually war an deiz lit. "on the day", but if it were diouzh an deiz, it would be pronounced either /doez än 'dé:/ or, especially in the NW and SE, /dah än 'deis/'dé:, dòh än 'deis/'dé:/. Little reason then to see the /h/ as deriving from hanter; it is more likely an allegro/presto realization of the -rth in dyworth.
 
Steve Hewitt

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-n7X53JCS4 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-n7X53JCS4&feature=related> &feature=related




In this video (spelt in KK) the word dohajydh is pronounced with the stress on the second syllable. 
I wonder whether this is correct.
Lhuyd gives the word as <Dyhodzhedh> AB: 249a.




We have a similar formation in
dworennos PA 234c < *dyworth an nos 'after dark, after the night had fallen'


I assume that dyhodzhedh and kyngys hanter dogha geyth PC 2912 both contain
dohajedh < *dyworth hanter an jedh 'from the middle of the day, afternoon'. 
The expression at PC 2912 then means 'before halfway through the afternoon
(literally 'after halfway through the day'; cf. afternoon, après midi, etc.)


If the stress had been on the penultimate
syllable, we should expect Lhuyd to have written *dyhadzhath. I am inclined
to think that the word should be pronounced dohaJEDH [dOh@'dZe:D].


Nicholas



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