[Spellyans] MAGA newsletter 2008.12 - again!

Ray Chubb ray at spyrys.org
Sun Dec 7 09:26:12 GMT 2008


Some useful information here.  I think what we need is a Cornish  
Simplified part 3.  Or perhaps Clappya Kernowek part 2.

On 6 Kev 2008, at 18:08, nicholas williams wrote:

> I shoud say Hemma a veu an kensa novel gans Myghal Palmer or Hemma a  
> veu an kensa novel scrifys gans Myghal Palmer.
> The preterite is necessary here, because the novel's publication is  
> being thought of as a single past event.
> It is like Tregear's thegen heveleb ny eff a rug Eva an kynsa benyn  
> bethqueth a ve TH 2a.
>
> I can find no example of either hemma a ve or hem a ve, but Tregear  
> writes:
> whath hemma a vea sufficient lowre TH 50a where the verb is  
> conditional. He also writes: henna a ve gesys ha na moy vsyys TH  
> 52a, where henna not hen occurs before a veu.  I think that hemma/ 
> hebma a veu is probably correct.
>
> Incidentally both hemma yw and hem yw are attested. Hemma yw is the  
> more common. The figures are:
>
> hem yv 1
> hem yw 1
> hem ew 1
>
> hemma yv 6
> hemma yw 1
> hemma ew 23
> helma yv 4.
>
> Hem yw was certainly well known because in SA one finds: kemerogh,  
> debbr(ogh), hem ew ow corff ve SA 62a, which would have been
> know to people as a Cornish version of Hoc est corpus meum in the  
> mass.
>
> I can find one example of hemma o and none of hem o.
>
> Nicholas
>
>
> On 6 Dec 2008, at 16:16, Ray Chubb wrote:
>
>> This is the English, (which will appear in the latest edition of  
>> the S a G catalogue), which I was attempting to translate:  This is  
>> the late Myghal Palmer's first novel.
>>
>>
>> On 6 Kev 2008, at 11:13, nicholas williams wrote:
>>
>>> Below is my preferred rendering.
>>> Except that it might have been better to say: Hemm a veu an kensa  
>>> novel gans Myghal Palmer.
>>>
>>> On 5 Dec 2008, at 23:23, Eddie Climo wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Hemm o an kensa novel gans Myghal Palmer ....
>>>>
>>>
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