[Spellyans] del 'leaves' and dèl/dell 'so, as'
ajtrim at msn.com
ajtrim at msn.com
Sat Dec 13 16:28:07 GMT 2008
I agree for <dell>.
The form <dell> minimises the number of diacritical marks, follows the basic
rules, distinguishes from another word <del> ("leaves") and is a traditional
Using the SWF spelling rules, a single final <l> erroneously implies a long
In the case of <war> "on", we have a short vowel but it is not the sound
that would be expected from <à>.
Instead the sound of <war> "on" is more like the sound of "war" in English.
The form <warr> for "on" would therefore not be correct either.
I would leave it as <war>, though you could use <wär> to indicate the
non-standard vowel quality.
The Cornish for "aware" is SWF <war> with a short vowel.
You could write "aware" as <wàr> in KS, though you could use <warr> to show
that the vowel is a regular short <a> (rather than unexpectedly-short, as
implied by <à>).
In conclusion, I think I would go for <dell> "so" and <del> "leaves", <war>
"on" and <warr> "aware".
Andrew J. Trim
From: "Michael Everson" <everson at evertype.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 2:19 PM
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Subject: [Spellyans] del 'leaves' and dèl/dell 'so, as'
> In the SWF and KS we have a rule that in monosyllables a vowel is short
> before -ll. So the expected form of the word 'so, as' is <dell>, just
> like <pell> 'long'. We can distinguish <del> 'leaves' and <dèl> 'so, as',
> but why not <dell>? <Dell> also happens to be the form in KK. Why do we
> have <del> for 'so, as' in the SWF?
> Ray Chubb told me that Albert Bock had argued against <del> (our <dèl>)
> because it would imply that we ought to write <warr> 'on'. We write
> <wàr>, but in terms of orthography design I think Albert's view is
> incorrect. Yes, both *<warr> and <dell> follow the rule and give nice
> predictable short vowels. But <dell> occurs 152 times in the corpus, so
> there's certainly no reason to avoid it. True, we don't like <warr> which
> contrasts with <war> [wæ:r] 'beware'. But in good orthography design we
> should use the predictable rule whenever possible and mark only
> I think we should write <dell> and not <dèl> in Kernowek Standard.
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