[Spellyans] Jazz > loan words?

A. J. Trim ajtrim at msn.com
Sun Jul 6 14:33:37 IST 2008

I vote for spagetty and pitsa. If you must use diacritcs, then pîtsa is OK 


Andrew J. Trim

From: "Michael Everson" <everson at evertype.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:55 AM
To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Jazz > loan words?

> At 09:40 +0100 2008-07-06, Eddie Climo wrote:
>>No, we have to conclude that it ain't going to
>>happen, is it? As Craig says, words like this
>>are not Cornish: they're international words,
>>and are probably best left in their original
> Pizza and jazz aren't "international words" in
> the same way that "mezzo soprano" or "allegro non
> troppo" are.
>>We should stand somewhere between 'laissez
>>faire' and 'dolce far niente' on the issue of
>>loan-words, I fancy.
> The question was not about loanwords but about spelling.
> In this matter we may follow our Welsh brethren, I believe.
> The Welsh assimilate "jas", "jasaidd"; we may
> prefer "jaz", "jazek" here (to be different from
> the Welsh and so as not to lead people to believe
> that "jas" < "jad" as "tas" < "tad" -- rather the
> opposite of what George and Co. want for -z).
> The Welsh assimilate "pitsa"; we may prefer "pîtsa".
> The Welsh assimilate "sbageti"; we may prefer
> "spagetty" (UCR has "spagettî"; is "spagety"
> better than "spagetty"?).
> For my part I do not believe that young children
> being brought up in English or in Cornish
> recognize pizza or spaghetti as unassimilated
> loanwords. In English, we don't alter the
> spelling because we haven't got to.
> (Personally I've always yearned to wrote "brockley" for "broccoli".)
> -- 
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