[Spellyans] Diacritics?

Jon Mills j.mills at email.com
Mon Jul 14 09:28:30 IST 2008


If 'sylvester' is compounded in at least three Cornish place names, and has a fairly stable Cornish form, 'Salvester', then it would appear to have been actually assimilated into the Cornish language.
Jon

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig Weatherhill" <weatherhill at freenet.co.uk>
> To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Diacritics?
> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:35:05 +0100
> 
>....
> 
> An interesting point is the personal name Sylvester (Latin origin,
> presumably "woodsman" or similar). Three place-names have this element
> (Chysauster, Nansalsa and I can't think of the third one at present)
> and, in each case, the Cornish form of Sylvester is so consistently
> shown as Salvester that the A vowel survives even into the present form
> of each name.
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> 
> Ken MacKinnon wrote:
> > Well I am a Virgo - and that means I do not believe in any of that zodiacal
> > stuff.
> >
> > However, you may recall that sometime ago I contributed a list of West
> > Cornwall placenames spelled with circumflexes on current OS maps.  Since
> > then diligent perusal of larger scale maps has resulted in further examples.
> >
> > I would repeat that the use of the circumflex on Cornish names in current
> > use has long been well accepted by the map-reading and general Cornish
> > public and the use  of the circumflex as an accepatable Cornish diacritic
> > should cause no reasonable problems.
> >
> > I look forward to your forthcoming book, Craig - and hope to 
> > secure an early copy.  With the placename Lowarth an Dyjy - is 
> > the Dygy the same as the St Ives streetname The Digey?  If so 
> > whatever is such a name doing in the middle of a town?
> >
> > There used to be a local simile in common use 'as straight as the 
> > Digey'.  I never really understood this as The Digey never 
> > appeared particularly straight to me.  But then on the other hand 
> > it was probably a lot straighter than many of the neighbouring 
> > thoroughfares.
> >
> > Apologies for wandering off topic - but spelling of Cornish 
> > antiquities and street names might very properly feature on 
> > future agendas.
> >
> > - an Ken ken
> >
> >
> > (Prof) Ken MacKinnon,
> > Ivy Cottage, Ferintosh,
> > The Black Isle, by Dingwall,
> > Ross-shire  IV7 8HX
> > Tel: 01349 - 863460
> > E-mail: kenmackinnon at enterprise.net
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Weatherhill" 
> > <weatherhill at freenet.co.uk>
> > To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Diacritics?
> >
> >
> >
> >> Do we Sagittarians have any say in the matter?  Way outside the SWF I
> >> know, but I always did like the long A and U shown with a circumflex, as
> >> on the maps and signposts for places like Carn Bras, Chun Castle,
> >> Boscaswen-un and others (you'll have to imagine the circumflexes).
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Eddie Climo wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 11 Jul 2008, at 18:17, Owen Cook wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You will all think me infuriatingly Gemini for saying so, but I agree
> >>>> with both Eddie and Nicholas here. We must use diacritics for
> >>>> irregular vowel length. We must also use it for our u-grave items. KS
> >>>> must have exactly the necessary minimum of diacritics.
> >>>>
> >>> As a fellow Gemini, Owen, I find myself inexorably compelled to agree
> >>> with you agreeing with me.
> >>>
> >>> :D
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Eddie Foirbeis Climo
> >>> - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- -
> >>> Dres ethom akennow byner re bons lyeshes.
> >>> /Accenti non multiplicanda praeter necessitatem./
> >>>
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Dr. Jon Mills,
School of European Culture and Languages,
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