[Spellyans] More on bys/bes words and diacritical marks

Craig Weatherhill weatherhill at freenet.co.uk
Sat Jul 19 20:23:10 IST 2008


Eythin might have been more appropriate.

Craig

Ken MacKinnon wrote:
> Yes - 'as lecherous as is a sparwe' - Chaucer (Prologue)
>
> However re plant names - Anne Trevenen Jenkin is Bryallen.    It may have 
> been that hedgerow flowers
> were the fashion.
>
> Has anyone yet used Melyonnen Omdennans ?
>
> We are maybe drifting off-topic.
>
> - an Ken ken
>
> (Prof) Ken MacKinnon,
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> The Black Isle, by Dingwall,
> Ross-shire  IV7 8HX
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>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "nicholas williams" <njawilliams at gmail.com>
> To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 5:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] More on bys/bes words and diacritical marks
>
>
>   
>> My bardic name was Golvan 'sparrow'. I thought of myself in 1962 as
>> small and chirpy.
>> I didn't realise in 1962  that in former times the sparrow was
>> considered incorrigibly lecherous.
>>
>> Nicholas
>> On 19 Jul 2008, at 17:08, Craig Weatherhill wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Hmm, far be it for me to judge how appropriate, or otherwise, that
>>> might be.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>
>>> nicholas williams wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Gwythvosen is the UC spelling of a word borrowed from Welsh and
>>>> Breton. It means 'honeysuckle' (Lonicera periclymenum)
>>>>
>>>> Nicholas
>>>> -----------
>>>> On 18 Jul 2008, at 20:48, Craig Weatherhill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Jenefer Lowe is the Cornish Language Development Officer at Cornwall
>>>>> Council.
>>>>>
>>>>> Craig
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Harry Fraiser wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Pardon my ignorance - who is Ms Lowe? Is she a member of the
>>>>>> Gorseth a
>>>>>> Kernow?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Owen Cook <owen.e.cook at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:owen.e.cook at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Jenefer Lowe, I'd assume.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   By RLC material, I meant anything written by users of revived
>>>>>> Late
>>>>>>   Cornish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On the other hand, I think it would be a fantastic idea to
>>>>>> collect the
>>>>>>   whole corpus of traditional Late Cornish in one volume. I was
>>>>>> under
>>>>>>   the impression that such a book existed for the writings of the
>>>>>> Boson
>>>>>>   family, but where can we get our hands on the various writings of
>>>>>>   Keigwin, Gwavas, Tonkin and the rest? There is some on the
>>>>>> internet,
>>>>>>   but not in any systematic and exhaustive fashion. In fact it was
>>>>>>   remarked on the Kernowak list some months back that there was
>>>>>> more
>>>>>>   Late Cornish material than one might expect, much of which has
>>>>>> never
>>>>>>   been published.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Oll an gwelha,
>>>>>>   ~~Owen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   2008/7/16 Harry Fraiser <harryfraiser at googlemail.com
>>>>>>   <mailto:harryfraiser at googlemail.com>> rug scrifa:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> I've no idea what the figures are for the different forms of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>   Cornish,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> but surely there must be a minimum for each one? And who is Jenny?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/16/08, Mary Williams <marywilliams230 at yahoo.co.uk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>   <mailto:marywilliams230 at yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> I've often wondered why nobody has put all the Late material
>>>>>>>> together in a book, I don't imagine it would be a very thick
>>>>>>>> book.
>>>>>>>> Is that what you mean by "making RLC material accessible"? I've
>>>>>>>> seen Dick Gendall's dictionaries and course books, but I can't
>>>>>>>> recall seeing anything written in this system apart from the odd
>>>>>>>> line or two here and there. Likewise Jenny was talking about the
>>>>>>>> need to cater for kids growing up learning Late, until someone
>>>>>>>> pointed out to her that there weren't any! Why do you feel the
>>>>>>>> need to give so much attention to a group that's almost invisible
>>>>>>>> to us in Cornwall?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>>
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