[Spellyans] More on bys/bes words and diacritical marks

Harry Fraiser harryfraiser at googlemail.com
Sun Jul 20 16:56:23 IST 2008


Sounds reasonable - looking fotward to more!

Harry



On 7/20/08, nicholas williams <njawilliams at gmail.com> wrote:
> Neil Kennedy criticised me for introducing neologisms into revived
> Cornish. See Cornish Studies: NIne page 316.
> In fact Neil Kennedy's own dictionary tends to avoid items not in the
> traditional language and can be considered
> the better for that—although there are many gaps.
>
> When I wrote the dictionary I did not have (as I do now) a searchable
> database of Middle Cornish.
>
> In the introduction to the second edition of the dictionary I caution
> against the excessive use of neologisms. They
> should be used as a last resort, rather than as everyday terms. I also
> believe that attested loanwords from ME
> are preferable to "Celtic" inventions. I prefer fanya to *gwynsella,
> for example.
>
> Nance used stevel for 'room' (the MC word is rom), avon 'river' (the
> attested MC is ryver), and enep 'face' (the attested word
> is fas).
>
> In my translation of the New Testament as far as possible I used an
> attested vocabulary rather than a created one.
>
> Nicholas
>
>
> On 20 Jul 2008, at 13:53, Harry Fraiser wrote:
>
>> Shall you then omit these in the next edition?
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> On 7/20/08, nicholas williams <njawilliams at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In my dictionary i included words and expressions I found in other
>>> dictionaries and revived sources.
>>> I should inclined now to omit many of them.
>>>
>>> Nicholas
>>> -----------
>>> On 20 Jul 2008, at 10:32, Michael Everson wrote:
>>>
>>>> At 10:01 +0100 2008-07-20, nicholas williams wrote:
>>>>> The language of Gorseth Kernow is Unified Cornish - though it is
>>>>> not
>>>>> always very good Cornish.
>>>>>
>>>>> The title of one of the lists is as follows:
>>>>> Hynwyn Tylu pup Barth oll yn aray abecedary
>>>>
>>>> I have to point out that the UCR dictionary lists "yn aray an
>>>> abecedary" for 'in alphabetical order' and "herwyth an abecedary"
>>>> for
>>>> 'alphabetical'. 'Alphanumeric' is "alafnyverek" however, so I can't
>>>> see much reason to avoid "alfabet". "Abece" is fine too.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com
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