[Spellyans] Porth

Craig Weatherhill weatherhill at freenet.co.uk
Fri Jul 25 07:26:19 IST 2008

I see what you mean about the typography which is a bit unfortunate, but 
can't see enough to tell how limp or otherwise the storylines are.  I 
thought that "Whee!" was a nod to Late Cornish orthography :-P .

Nor can I tell how politically "correct" they are.  In fact, I saw the 
words "girl", "boy" and "coloured" - all technically very politically 
incorrect.  The censors will do an Enid Blyton job on these :-D   .  
Yes, "Ke dhe ves" is very mild but, Eddie, even in pre PC days, you 
can't write "Kyj dhe ves" in a children's book!   Not even Enid Blyton's 
:-[ .

Seriously, though, I would need to see more of these in order to make 
any real judgement.  Pity about the "main form" (it still rankles that 
"main-form" status was given to spurious, untraditional graphs based 
upon a system that, in turn, are founded on a database that its 
originator still won't allow into the public domain after 20-odd years), 
but it was Pol Hodge that worked on the texts with Will.

The two samples took an age to download.


Eddie Climo wrote:
> On 24 Jul 2008, at 20:02, Michael Everson wrote:
>> I have not seen it. What is it?
> A series of books commissioned by the CLP for /ab initio/ Primary 
> School learners of Cornish. Have a look at
> http://www.magakernow.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=44044
> for details of the project. There are links on that URL to a couple of 
> sample pages.
> Fwiw, my take on the books, based on the 2 sample pages on MAGA's site 
> is that:
> -- the artwork is well done and attractive, 
> -- the typography is poor in places: black text against medium cobalt 
> sky is hard to read, and is a flaw that would be trivial to fix.
> -- the story-lines are so politically correct they're utterly limp,
> -- the mixing of fragments of Cornish in with much longer chunks of 
> English is an awful way to try and teach a language.
> -- the spelling is sometimes ludicrously anglicised. For instance, we 
> find that English "Whee!" allegedly becomes *Cornish . . . "Whee!". 
> This prompts 2 observations:
> (1) SWF 'Main' Form has <hw> not <wh>, if memory serves me aright,
> (2) it does not have Cornish <--ee> for the English /i:/ sound (as in 
> E. 'tea', 'we'). In fact, I don't think SWF has <ee> at all, does it?
> -- some of the 'Cornish' idioms sound strangely anglicised. Surely, E. 
> "I can fly" would not normally be translated (as they do) "My a yll 
> neija" but rather as "My a wor neija".
> If I had kids of school age, I wouldn't be buying any of these for 
> them (irrespective of the nasty SWF 'Main' Form orthography they've used).
> Eddie Foirbeis Climo
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