[Spellyans] Front unrounded vowels, was: The quantity system
everson at evertype.com
Tue Jun 24 18:22:28 BST 2008
At 19:26 +0300 2008-06-24, Owen Cook wrote:
>2008/6/24 Michael Everson <everson at evertype.com>:
> >> (and remember, here we need the accent on <ÿ> to show length)
> > That's not correct.
>Yes it is. We have 'jyn' in KS, don't we?
>Although you may be right, that got shot down in the SWF, which has
>'jynn' for everybody.
Not for us ;-) That's one of the errors of the SWF.
> > We could adopt <beis>, but that would introduce a pretty massive systemic
>> difference between KS and the SWF. I don't think that is wise. The diaeresis
>> is not really very obtrusive, however, and diacritiphobes can omit them if
>> they must.
>The diaeresis looks terrible. This is a really
>big set of words, so why do we need to have
>mounds of diaereses which indicate neither a
>vowel on hiatus (as in Welsh, inter alia) nor
>umlaut (as in German, inter alia) nor a centre
>unrounded vowel (as in Luxembourgish or
>Albanian) nor any other value for a diaeresis
>that I've ever come across.
Actually, I think I've caught you here. ;-)
Consider German and its dialects. <ö> is (in
practice if not in theory) an umbrella graph for
/ø/~/e/ (schön [Sø:n]~[Se:n]) and <ü> is an
umbrella graph for /y/~/i/ (grün
/gry:n]~[gri:n]). So what we propose here is that
<ÿ> and <ë> are both umbrella graphs for
>I'm a diacriticophile, but I've never liked this
>use of the diaeresis. The acute accent would
>make me much, much happier.
In my judgement the acute accent would be
interpreted as a stress mark by most readers. And
I think the two little dots are really not very
obtrusive. But the choice here is one of
character set and many many many fonts: While
Windows has both y-acute and y-diaeresis, the
classic Mac OS has only y-diaeresis.
Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com
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