[Spellyans] The quantity system
A. J. Trim
ajtrim at msn.com
Tue Jun 24 20:47:37 BST 2008
I pronounce Austria as ['OstrI@].
Chambers English Dictionary gives a longer [O:] sound.
The Cornish spelling should be Ostrya or Estrya.
The aust is latinised German öst "east".
Verbs like redya "to read" need the <y> to start some of the verbal endings,
so I would not want to spell it redia.
For example, i a redyons "they read" / "they shall read"; redyes/redys (past
Verbs like fia "to flee" has i a fions; fiyes.
There is a difference and so I would not recommend using <ia> in all
Andrew J. Trim
From: "Jon Mills" <j.mills at email.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:01 PM
To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] The quantity system
> In the 2 pronunciations [Os'tri:@] and ['Ostrja] the word stress is placed
> on different syllables. So we have [i:@] in a stressed syllable and [ja]
> in an unstressed syllable. Given that ryal/rial is monosyllabic, the
> diphthong would, according to this rule, be [i:@]. However that implies
> that the diphthongs [i:@] and [ja] are in complementary distribution. If
> that is the case, then we can write <ia> for both and say that <ia> is
> pronounced [i:@] when it is word stressed and [ja] when it is word
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Everson" <everson at evertype.com>
>> To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] The quantity system
>> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:41:13 +0100
>> At 15:04 +0000 2008-06-24, Jon Mills wrote:
>> > Yes, I can see that these 2 diphthongs might be said to
>> > distinguish two distinct sets of verb endings. But what grounds
>> > are there for distinguishing them in word stems such as ryal/rial?
>> We spell <Austrya> because it is not [Os'tri:@], but ['Ostrja]. Some
>> consistency is needed; we have it if we distinguish <ia> and <ya>.
>> Nance writes <ryal> with a long mark on the y. I read that as
>> ['ri:@l] and would write it <rial>.
>> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com
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> Dr. Jon Mills,
> School of European Culture and Languages,
> University of Kent
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