[Spellyans] Problems with SWF
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Thu Jun 26 15:36:47 BST 2008
2008/6/26 Michael Everson <everson at evertype.com> rug scrifa:
> I don't think we have to mark these, as they can be listed exhaustively. How
> do you transcribe 'uhel' and 'a-ugh'?
Oh, I think they're just /'iwh at l/ and /@'iwh/, aren't they? (Why the
devil did I leave Archaeologia Britannica in storage?)
(I am taking it that [x] is an allophone of /h/, by the way.)
>> If <uw> seems too letter-heavy, perhaps a diacritic is necessary?
> <uwnyversyta>? <uwsya>? This would lead to another divergence from the SWF
> (and from UC, UCR, and KK) for little yield. Using the circumflex treads
> more lightly.
It fixes an inconsistency. I like the way <uw> looks in 'uwsya', but
if nobody else agrees with me, fair enough. There is still the option
of <ú> or <ü>. But actually, now that I think about it, all of the <û>
we use for /u:/ is non-initial, no? Can we not say that as a rule
initial <û> represents some species of [iu], be it /ju/ or /iw/?
Gendall writes the following words with <iu>:
ûnya, ûnyon, ûnita, ûniversal, ûniversalita, ûniversita
ûs, ûsadow, ûsya*, ûsys*, ûsyans~ûjyans
(My KS-based spellings, by the way, not his. I've omitted his English
The items marked with an asterisk are attested in Lhuyd with [iu] or
[Iu] (i.e. <iu.> or <yu.>). If the [iu] thing can be believed for the
other items too, we have a reasonably important set here. In any case,
it is necessary to keep these separate from other words beginning with
<u>, like uvel, ugans, ufern, udn, which simply fall in with /i/ in
Oll an gwelha,
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