[Spellyans] The quantity system

A. J. Trim ajtrim at msn.com
Tue Jun 24 20:47:37 IST 2008


I pronounce Austria as ['OstrI@].
Chambers English Dictionary gives a longer [O:] sound.
The Cornish spelling should be Ostrya or Estrya.
The aust is latinised German öst "east".

Verbs like redya "to read" need the <y> to start some of the verbal endings, 
so I would not want to spell it redia.
For example, i a redyons "they read" / "they shall read"; redyes/redys (past 
particple).

Verbs like fia "to flee" has i a fions; fiyes.

There is a difference and so I would not recommend using <ia> in all 
positions.


Regards,

Andrew J. Trim



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From: "Jon Mills" <j.mills at email.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:01 PM
To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] The quantity system

> In the 2 pronunciations [Os'tri:@] and ['Ostrja] the word stress is placed 
> on different syllables. So we have [i:@] in a stressed syllable and [ja] 
> in an unstressed syllable. Given that ryal/rial is monosyllabic, the 
> diphthong would, according to this rule, be [i:@]. However that implies 
> that the diphthongs [i:@] and [ja] are in complementary distribution. If 
> that is the case, then we can write <ia> for both and say that <ia> is 
> pronounced [i:@] when it is word stressed and [ja] when it is word 
> unstressed.
> Jon
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Everson" <everson at evertype.com>
>> To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] The quantity system
>> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:41:13 +0100
>>
>>
>> At 15:04 +0000 2008-06-24, Jon Mills wrote:
>>
>> > Yes, I can see that these 2 diphthongs might be said to
>> > distinguish two distinct sets of verb endings. But what grounds
>> > are there for distinguishing them in word stems such as ryal/rial?
>>
>> We spell <Austrya> because it is not [Os'tri:@], but ['Ostrja]. Some
>> consistency is needed; we have it if we distinguish <ia> and <ya>.
>>
>> Nance writes <ryal> with a long mark on the y. I read that as
>> ['ri:@l] and would write it <rial>.
>> --
>> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com
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