[Spellyans] The quantity system

Jon Mills j.mills at email.com
Wed Jun 25 15:07:25 IST 2008


I suggested that in the case of 'provia', [-i@] is an example of two vowels because the tonic stress falls on one of the vowels only, [-i-]. In this analysis 'provia' has 3 syllables.
   ||pro | vi | a ||
with the 2nd syllable carrying the stress. One might posit a linking-yod [_j] between the [i] and [@]: [prQ"vi_j@].

'Tiek' and 'tiogyon' illustrate the principle because of the stress shift: ["ti_j at k], [tI"_jQgj at n].

Jon

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Owen Cook" <owen.e.cook at gmail.com>
> To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] The quantity system
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:51:43 +0300
> 
> 
> 2008/6/25 Jon Mills <j.mills at email.com>:
> > Yes, this something that has been bothering me. If the word 'provia' carries
> > tonic stress on [-i-] then the [-i@] is an example of two vowels with hiatus
> > as you describe. This contrasts with 'profya' that ends with a rising
> > diphthong [j@]. Rial/ryal contains a diphthong [-i at -].
> > Jon
> 
> No, you would have to prove that /i@/ as a diphthong is somehow
> different from /i.@/ as two vowels on hiatus. I strongly doubt this.
> /i/ is frequently followed by another vowel on hiatus -- 'provia' is
> one example, 'tiogyon' is another. In the SWF as in KS, <i> always
> represents a vowel. The consonant /j/ is always <y>. So <ia> for /i.@/
> and <ya> for /ja/ is totally regular and makes good sense. And as
> Michael pointed out, both types of spelling are attested in the texts.
> Personally I wouldn't analyze 'profya' as having a rising diphthong
> anyway. Would you say 'yar' has a rising diphthong? Why postulate a
> separate rising diphthong or triphthong for /ju/, /jo/, /ja/, /je/,
> /jQ/, /jow/ when we can more economically say that these are a single
> consonant, /j/, followed by the vowels and diphthongs we already know?
> 
> Oll an gwelha,
> ~~Owen
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Dr. Jon Mills,
School of European Culture and Languages,
University of Kent


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