[Spellyans] <ay> ~ <ai> in KS = <ay> in SWF

A. J. Trim ajtrim at msn.com
Mon Jun 30 16:28:44 IST 2008


I have no objection to having <ai> and <ay> in Cornish if they are both 
beneficial, and if they are used consistently and predictably.

English is confused too, with "plain" & "plane" and with several meanings, 
based on the ideas of basic and flat.
UCR has plán, plén, and playn, where my acute accent is an (unwritten) 
macron.


Regards,

Andrew J. Trim



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From: "Owen Cook" <owen.e.cook at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:42 PM
To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] <ay> ~ <ai> in KS = <ay> in SWF

> Certainly; we need <ai>, as it's dead useful for these words and looks 
> good too.
>
> ~~Owen
>
> 2008/6/30 nicholas williams <njawilliams at gmail.com>:
>> In KS we sensibly distinguish <ai> [E:] from <ay> [ai].
>> The SWF has decided that only <ay> is to be used. Thus in Dan's 
>> dictionary
>> we
>> find:
>> Almayn [almaIn]
>> mayn [maIn] + [mE:n]
>> chayn [tSaIn] + [tSE:n]
>> playn [plaIn] + [plE:n] 'carpenter's plane'
>> but plen 'plain' (adj) and 'playing place, plain' as [ple:n].
>> But surely playn 'plane' and plen 'plain' have the same vowel.
>> They are, after all, the same word < Latin planus 'level'.
>> There seems to be confusion here in the SWF which needs to be sorted out.
>> Nicholas
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