[Spellyans] honen and onen

Clive Baker clive.baker at gmail.com
Thu Nov 27 15:16:01 GMT 2008


Hi Craig et al
just thought it was comical that you should pick an East Anglian name for
your example... originally from the village of Lumalgh, now under the North
Sea, and often seen in a name as Lummus
Clive

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Craig Weatherhill <craig at agantavas.org>wrote:

> Ray does have a point, as schwa is fast disappearing from English
> pronunciation thanks to television/radio; a habit that might well creep into
> Cornish as all its present day speakers are first-language English speakers.
>
> (typical examples:  the surname Lomas, formerly "LOE-mus", now heard on
> BBC/ITV as "LOE-mass"' and Zennor ("ZEN-ur") as "ZEN-aw").
>
> Craig
>
>
> On 25 Du 2008, at 08:41, Ray Chubb wrote:
>
> I note that an earlier spec. for the SWF had 'onan' but 'honen', so how did
>> 'honan' slip in?
>>
>> My concern in all this is that the very people who we would most like to
>> learn Cornish, (I hope that is the view of us all), will pronounce the 'a'
>> in both cases as a long 'a'.  This concern overrides any argument about
>> etymology or a rule that vowels had to follow KK.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24 Du 2008, at 20:34, nicholas williams wrote:
>>
>>   It is not traditional. I suspect it came from my dictionary. But if
>>> Gorseth Kernow is using it, it is in use and honan, although a traditional
>>> spelling is out of alignment with it.
>>>
>>> Nicholas
>>>
>>> On 24 Nov 2008, at 19:17, Daniel Prohaska wrote:
>>>
>>> Is <honensys> a traditionally attested word? Could the /e/ come from
>>>> secondary i-umlaut of /a/?
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>
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>> Ray Chubb
>>
>> Portreth
>> Kernow
>>
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