[Spellyans] Treylyans

Andrew Trim ajtrim at msn.com
Mon Oct 20 22:21:49 BST 2008

I have not tried this software yet. It may be very good. However, my previous experience of machine translation (both Cornish and German) has shown me that automatic translation is prone to errors - to the extent of not being very useful.
Of course, we are not talking about translation here, just transcription between one orthography and another. This is likely to be better.
However, we do not yet have a dictionary or grammar book for the SWF. The automatic transcription is therefore likely to have errors due to pre-empting the final forms.
The Treylyans website itself mentions some of the known problems. It does not pretend to be perfect yet.
Andrew J. Trim 

From: j.mills at email.comTo: spellyans at kernowek.netDate: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:40:41 +0000Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Treylyans
Why do you think that "Treylyans" (http://www.skodhya.org.uk/treylyans.htm) "is likely to yield poor quality results"? Have you observed that this software produces erroneous transliterations? Jon
----- Original Message -----From: ajtrim at msn.comTo: "Standard Cornish discussion list" Subject: [Spellyans] TreylyansDate: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 00:37:10 +0100
You may also be interested in "Treylyans", http://www.skodhya.org.uk/treylyans.htm.
I believe that this kind of software will be useful but, currently, it is likely to yield poor quality results.
Can anyone on this forum quantify this concern?
Do we consider this software to be usable yet?
The danger is that people will continue with their chosen orthographies rather than switching to the SWF.
They will use this software to convert their output to SWF so that their work will be officially acceptable.
Much SWF is likely to be poor quality as a result.
What do you folks, on this forum, think?
Is it better to write in the orthography that you "know", and rely on machine conversion to the SWF, or is it better to try to write in the SWF - baring in mind that there is currently no SWF dictionary or grammar book? Or is it better to ignore the SWF for now?
By the way, what is happening on the KS front? This group has gone to sleep! Have we completed our discussions on Cornish spelling or do we still have issues to discuss? What is the next stage?
Andrew J. Trim
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