[Spellyans] SWF questionable wordforms

Jon Mills j.mills at email.com
Thu Sep 11 10:13:12 IST 2008


There are some Late Cornish forms which begin 'Kern-': 'Kernowak',
'Kernooak', 'Kernowak'. However, in Late Cornish we also find 'Carnoack',
'Cornoack', 'Kornooack' and 'Curnooack'. Jon

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  From: "nicholas williams"
  To: "Standard Cornish discussion list"
  Subject: Re: [Spellyans] SWF questionable wordforms
  Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:23:32 +0100

  To write Cornowok would lose the connection with Kernow. It would
  also introduce into thewritten language a suffix -ok, which is -ek,
  -ak elsewhere, e.g. Frenkek, Godhalek, Zouznak, Sousenack.According
  to Gendall Gwavas writes Kernowak (among other forms).
  Nicholas

  On 11 Sep 2008, at 08:57, Jon Mills wrote:

    Both *Kernewek and *Kernowek are unattested and merely
    conjectural reconstructions. Morton Nance's 'Kernewek' is derived
    from Robert Williams's Lexicon s.v. Cernewek, which Williams, in
    turn derived from the Welsh. What is wrong with writing the
    attested form 'Cornowok'?Jon

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      From: "nicholas williams"
      To: "Standard Cornish discussion list"
      Subject: Re: [Spellyans] SWF questionable wordforms
      Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:00:10 +0100

      What you say may be true, but the expected form is *Kernewek
      < *Kornowika with i-affection of the ow > ew. 
      Nicholas

      On 10 Sep 2008, at 17:41, Daniel Prohaska wrote:

        No, I don’t think this is the case. Notice that Lhuyd
        gives the pronunciation kloüaz and toula with <ou> and
        not with <û>. He gives Kernûak, which means it goes with
        the words with original <ow>, like lowen and Jowan. Hence
        Kernowek is the correct word form and it cannot e assumed
        that *Kernewek was ever correct for any time period, even
        before the shift from ew to ow.Dan

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        From: nicholas williams
        Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:44 PM

        Surely Kernowek (Cornowok 1572) is a development of
        *Kernowek by the rule stressed ew > ow in disyllables and
        polysyllables; cf. clowes, towlel, etc.This development
        appears early in written Cornish, cf. Ihesus crist leun a
        bete a leueris zen dowzek PA 49a. Nicholas  On 9 Sep
        2008, at 09:46, Michael Everson wrote:

        and Breton Kerneveg, but a new formation based on Kernow
        + -ek. It seems the consistent SWF spelling ought to be
        Kernowek with an earlier pronunciation [kEr”nOUwEk] and a
        later [k at r”nu:@k]
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