[Spellyans] <gwredhen> or <gwreydhen> "root"?

Nicholas Williams njawilliams at gmail.com
Fri Jan 16 16:01:18 GMT 2009

When y in a suffix follows y in a diphthong in the preceding syllable
it is not uncommon for the diphthong to be simplified.
Examples include voydya > vodya, joynya > jonya, junya and defoylya > defolya.
I think gwreydhyow, gwredhya may be another example.


On 1/16/09, Owen Cook <owen.e.cook at gmail.com> wrote:
> Now, the Old, Middle and Tudor spellings we've seen do seem to me to
>  imply a good deal of [@j] (with perhaps a variant [I] before yod). By
>  Late Cornish, however, Lhuyd's got this as gwredhan, which pretty
>  clearly ought to indicate [gwreD at n]. If there's alternation here, it
>  seems to me that it should be:
>  gwrÿdhyow, gwrÿdhya, gwrÿdh [Middle and Tudor]
>  gwreydhen, gwreydhow, Trewreydhel [Middle and Tudor]
>  gwrëdhen [Late]
>  If I'm right, this is not a 'classic' bës/bÿs word at all -- it's the
>  diphthong that throws the schema off. Small wonder that this
>  irregularity should have been forgotten by Lhuyd's time.
>  ~~Owen
>  2009/1/14 Nicholas Williams <njawilliams at gmail.com> rug screfa:
> > I should recommend:
>  >
>  > gwredhen, gwrydh (KS gwrëdh), gwredhyow
>  > gwredhya
>  >
>  > Nicholas
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