[Spellyans] Maga Newsletter

Craig Weatherhill weatherhill at freenet.co.uk
Fri Jan 9 07:48:48 GMT 2009


Thanks for the offer, David but I think it might be wise to restrict  
circulation for the moment and especially while professional  
troublemakers are looking into this list on a daily basis.

Craig

On 8 Gen 2009, at 22:25, David Trethewey wrote:

> I could put it up on my website and send the link around if that's  
> easier.
>
> David
>
>
> Craig Weatherhill wrote:
>> Janice,  I tried to send you a copy but the mail service to your  
>> address failed.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>> On 8 Gen 2009, at 19:02, janicelobb at tiscali.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>> No-one can dispute the relevance of place names. I would love a  
>>> copy,
>>> please.
>>> Janice
>>>
>>>> ----Original Message----
>>>> From: craig at agantavas.org
>>>> Date: 08/01/2009 9:33
>>>> To: "Standard Cornish discussion list"<spellyans at kernowek.net>
>>>> Subj: Re: [Spellyans] Maga Newsletter
>>>>
>>>> Several months ago, Andrew, Maga paid me to produce a discussion
>>>> document, with a recommendation list for place-names.  The list  
>>>> that
>>> I
>>>> produced contained about 3,500 toponyms, from towns and villages,
>>> to
>>>> topographic features, and archaeological sites.  It has yet to see
>>> the
>>>> light of day and one wonders why.
>>>>
>>>> What I endeavoured to do was to balance the linguistic demands with
>>>> preserving the historical integrity of each name (not always an
>>> easy
>>>> task).  As both the Commission and Jenefer herself has said, this
>>> was
>>>> best achieved by using traditional graphs so I set out to adhere to
>>>> SWF/T as closely as I could.  This I almost achieved but felt
>>>> compelled to reintroduce the <au> graph, as the SWF alternative
>>> simply
>>>> did not work with the names.
>>>>
>>>> There is bound to be opposition from CLB members, because I heavily
>>>> criticised their place-name recommendation booklet in "Form and
>>>> Content".  However, their recommendations were all about language
>>> (in
>>>> this case KK), with no regard to the history of the names.  For
>>>> example, the CLB simply translated the modern English names of St
>>>> Columb Major and Minor into Cornish, producing Sen Kolomm Veur and
>>> Sen
>>>> Kolomm Vyghan.  Had they done any historical research, they'd have
>>>> found the genuine Cornish names for both: Plugolom and Colom
>>>> respectively.
>>>>
>>>> I am happy to send a copy of the document to anyone who'd like to
>>> see
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7 Gen 2009, at 22:28, <ajtrim at msn.com> <ajtrim at msn.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know the answer.
>>>>> I did not think that there were any rules for place names.
>>>>> Is anyone discussing place names yet?
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, the original MAGA text used straight quotes so the
>>>>> leading apostrophes of the Late Cornish variants looked OK.
>>>>> If you are typing Late Cornish variant SWF, it's better to turn
>>> off
>>>>> smart quotes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew J. Trim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: nicholas williams
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:58 PM
>>>>> To: Standard Cornish discussion list
>>>>> Subject: [Spellyans] Maga Newsletter
>>>>>
>>>>> The latest newsletter begins in the Late Cornish variant of the
>>> SWF.
>>>>> Inter alia it says:
>>>>>
>>>>> Les hwei a dheu dhe guntelles MAGA,
>>>>> ha na rugo’ hwei gorra ‘gas hanow
>>>>> hwath, me ‘venja drei hedna dhe ‘gas
>>>>> kov eneth arta, leverel dhew’ fatel
>>>>> vedh synjys yn mis Jenver, an 31vas
>>>>> jorna, yn Lostwydhiel.
>>>>>
>>>>> How are we to know that Lostwydhiel is not stressed Lostwy'dhiel?
>>>>> What are the rules?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicholas
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> -- 
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>>>>
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