[Spellyans] 'up, upwards'
craig at agantavas.org
Fri Jan 23 23:18:54 GMT 2009
Although I run the risk of ruffling feathers, I do wonder if we are
not drifting off track with some of the items being discussed here.
Surely, the idea was to concentrate upon addressing the faults
recognised within SWF. I don't understand where the yn/in question
comes into this. Are we, in fact, in danger of going a little too far?
On 23 Gen 2009, at 21:58, Eddie Climo wrote:
> This sounds like an equally good argument for admitting either 'yn',
> or both 'yn' and 'in', for the preposition.
> I do not favour the idea of introducing into Cornish artificial
> orthographic conventions to make homonymic distinctions between
> With some reluctance, I do accept the idea of distinguishing, say, /
> gwyn/ 'white' from /gwy:n/ 'wine'; although I don't find this
> confusing myself, I do understand that some learners might find it so.
> But as for using orthographic notation to distinguish homophones --
> therein lies the path to madness! Consider this little set (which is
> only one of many in Cornish!), and imagine trying to play this sort
> of game with them. Let this one example stand for the many similar
> ones that exist in Cornish; the word (rendered in UC) <cok>, with a
> long vowel, can mean (Nance 1938):
> 1) cuckoo
> 2) fishing boat
> 3) man-cook
> 4) empty, vain, worthless
> 5) one-eyed.
> Imagine trying to find **5** different spellings for all of these
> meanings of /co:k/.
> As we couldn't possibly do it for groups like /co:k/, we shouldn't
> advocate it for /yn/.
> Eddie Climo
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> Dres ethom akennow byner re bons lyeshes
> Accenti non multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
> On 23 Jan 2009, at 08:41, nicholas williams wrote:
>> As a matter of interest in for 'in' is as common as yn.
>> <yn dan> occurs 18 times, <in dan> is attested 43 times.
>> On 23 Jan 2009, at 00:15, Eddie Climo wrote:
>>> I see no need for this distinction; 'yn' for both works perfectly
>>> well, and should be allowed.
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