[Spellyans] An Abecedary Kernowek

ajtrim at msn.com ajtrim at msn.com
Mon Mar 30 10:50:54 IST 2009


Apparently, there is no evidence of pre-occlusion in the names of M & N. I 
asked for it to be considered for KS. It looks as though it has been 
rejected. I'm fine with that.
If evidence were to appear, we would need two versions, as you say.

The SWF often writes mm and nn where no pre-occlusion takes place. That is 
one of the "problems" with the SWF that KS is designed to "fix". If the SWF 
were satisfactory, we wouldn't need KS. Dan's SWF dictionary will record the 
SWF as it has been agreed; not as we would like it to be.


Andrew J. Trim

From: "Craig Weatherhill" <craig at agantavas.org>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:09 AM
To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] An Abecedary Kernowek

> Absolutely, but what I'm getting at is that the alphabet has to  contain 
> alternatives for M and N (i.e. BM and DN) to be complete.
> By the way, Andrew and I came across an annoying problem with the SWF 
> which has commol but comolen.  Surely the collective noun is in error  as 
> the word does not preocclude.  If not, then we have an unnecessary 
> complication for learners (why double M in one but not the other?).  I 
> thought it was agreed that geminates would only occur in stressed 
> syllables where it is known that preocclusion applies, e.g. dhymm/ dhybm; 
> omma/obma.
> Craig
> On 29 Mer 2009, at 22:41, Michael Everson wrote:
>> On 29 Mar 2009, at 22:19, Craig Weatherhill wrote:
>>> With M and N we would have to have two entries for each: one for  the 
>>> unpreoccluded form and one where preocclusion applies.
>> Pre-occlusion could not apply to these words unless they were  attested 
>> with pre-occlusion.
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