[Spellyans] nut

j.mills at email.com j.mills at email.com
Thu Nov 26 17:14:07 GMT 2009


However, I am unable to find *cnowen, 'nut-tree' in Lhuyd, 51c.
Jon

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Dr. Jon Mills, 
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From: Craig Weatherhill <craig at agantavas.org>
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But that Lhuyd example (and others, such as gwedhan knyfan (dot over the y), and kynyphan frenk (dot over both y), 74a, include the medial f that George ignores, preferring instead to go with W. cneuog and Breton kraoneg (wavy wotsit over the n), instead of attested Cornish. From Lhuyd's evidence, the Cornish word was distinct from W and B. 
 
I think that KS and the SWF should reject *knowen, unless some real evidence from a Cornish source turns up. 
 
Craig 
 
On 26 Du 2009, at 15:58, j.mills at email.com wrote: 
 
> Lhuyd (1707: 101c) gives "kynyfan" (i.e. KG's "knowen") as the > Cornish for "a nut". Lhuyd (1707: 51c) gives "Guedhan knyfan" for > "An hasle-tree". 
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> Jon 
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> I thought that 'knowen' was an invention by KG that has no > precedent. However, it appears that *cnowen, 'nut-tree' occurs in > Lhuyd, 51c. Note, however, that this is 'nut-tree', not 'nut'. In > which case *knowen, to translate as 'nut', would seem to be a KG > invention and inadmissable as truly Cornish. 
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