[Spellyans] Rules for the apostrophe
craig at agantavas.org
Tue May 18 22:21:07 BST 2010
Ah, yes, thank you. My machine always converts an initial apostrophe
to a 9, which I've always found to be a nuisance at best.
On 18 Me 2010, at 21:40, Michael Everson wrote:
> On 18 May 2010, at 19:00, Craig Weatherhill wrote:
>> Is there a need for diacritics in these words? Stress differs, but
>> not pronunciation. I'm thinking that when KS is somewhat under
>> fire for the number of diacritics, shouldn't we looking to limit or
>> even trim them? I don't understand what is meant by 'mistaken
>> smart quotes' - for me 'gan, 'gas, 'ga, without diacritics, are
>> perfectly clear as they are, and follow from agan, agas, aga
>> perfectly well and logically. Are we over-tinkering?
> As I said, this is nothing new. In order not to break the rules of
> quantity, KS1 suggested to write these as gàn, gàs, gà when
> shortened as stand-alone words. But shortening agan, agas, aga is
> relatively rare anyway.
> A dumb quote, Craig, is a vertical apostrophe | or a vertical
> quotation mark ||. Smart quotes are shaped like 6's (at the
> beginnings of things) and 9's (at the end). So to quote a word in
> single or double quotes, we have:
> 6Kernowek9 and 66Kernowek99 (‘Kernowek’ and “Kernowek”).
> Apostrophes are always supposed to be 9-shaped, and never 6-shaped.
> But if you have a word that begins with an apostrophe, chances are
> that your word processor (whether MS Word or OpenOffice or Pages or
> AppleWorks or whatever) is going to change it to a 6-shaped
> quotation mark. So you will get:
> 6gan (‘gan) rather than 9gan (’gan).
> The rules which I posted earlier today prevent this 100% of the time.
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