[Spellyans] Rules for the apostrophe
eddie_climo at yahoo.co.uk
Thu May 20 07:05:40 IST 2010
On 20 Me 2010, at 00:00, Michael Everson wrote:
>> On 19 May 2010, at 21:59, Eddie Climo wrote:
>> No, Nicholas, Nance was a fine linguist,
> He did not have scientific linguistic training (as we use the word
> "linguist" today)
Unfortunately, your use of the word 'we' does not include the fine
linguists in the Oxford Dictionary team. Their American edition says:
> linguist |ˈlɪŋgwɪst|
> 1 a person skilled in foreign languages.
> 2 a person who studies linguistics.
No mention of 'scientific' or 'training' there.
> in the way which Jenner did. "Philologist" is a more accurate
> description for someone with the background that Nance had. There
> is nothing wrong with philology. But it isn't the same as scientific
The same red herring: nothing in the AOED about 'scientific
linguistics'. And the vocabulary lesson is unnecessary, thanks, as
I've been studying languages (and linguistics) for many decades. Why,
I even know what a lexicographer is as well!
> His compiling a dictionary makes him a lexicographer, not a linguist.
Piffle! it made him both a linguist (in both senses of the word) and a
lexicographer. Lexicography is part of Linguistics, as is Philology.
>> Nance, Jenner, Smith, Chirgwin, Hooper and many others of that
>> generation — their place in the history of the Revival is secure.
> It does not, however, confer infallibility upon them,
Another red herring: we never said it did.
> and none of them, I believe, would be happy to be beatified by later
You and Nicholas need to co-ordinate your hyperbolic slurs: if any of
these people were 'deified' they'd scarcely be in line for the lesser
'honour' of beatification, would they? Anyway, this is another red
herring: nobody suggested either 'deification' or 'beatification'; a
modicum of respect would be in order, though.
As someone (Isaac Newton?) famously said, if we see further it's
because we stand on the shoulders of giants. We don't stand there so
we can gratuitously kick them in the face.
I recall that Ken George used precisely this technique of trying to
rubbish the scholars of Nance's generation (and of all the preceding
ones, right back to Glasney College) in an attempt to enhance the
status of KK.
It saddens me to see people using exactly the same tired old trick to
try and do the same with KS.
Rak meth dheugh!
Eddie Foirbeis Climo
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