[Spellyans] th/dh

Hewitt, Stephen s.hewitt at unesco.org
Mon Nov 22 11:07:07 GMT 2010

Then why does /-s-/ give [z] and /-f-/ give [v], but not /-θ-/ give [ð]?

I have raised this question before, and nobody has given a convincing answer. “Because of Lhuyd” is the mantra, but now we see some of the problems with Lhuyd.


Steve Hewitt



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It does nothing of the kind. The use of th for both the voiced and voiceless continuant is in imiatation of English.

In English heath has a final [θ] but Meath has a final [ð]. 

The word mouth has a voiceless final segment if it is a noun and a voiced segment if it is a verb.

Ether has a voiceless medial <th> but either has a voiced one.

There is often no way of telling from the spelling which is which in English.

The same is true of Cornish spelling, which is based on English.

There is no evidence suggest that [θ] and  [ð] had fallen together in Cornish.




On 2010 Du 22, at 10:37, Hewitt, Stephen wrote:

 The widespread use of <th>, <ʒ> for both surely suggests that they may have fallen together as voiced [ð] internally (on the analogy of <-s-> [z]; <-f-> [v]); the precise details of final treatment between stressed and unstressed final syllables to be worked out, quite possibly [ˈ-ð / ˈ--θ] for both inherited /ð/ and /θ/.


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