[Spellyans] th/dh

Craig Weatherhill craig at agantavas.org
Mon Nov 22 11:10:35 GMT 2010


i.e. from Mr Snell in Newlyn.

Craig


On 22 Du 2010, at 11:06, Craig Weatherhill wrote:

> From Nance's note, it looks as though Watson heard voiced th in  
> 'tardhak' and 'beswardhak' and unvoiced elsewhere.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On 22 Du 2010, at 11:01, nicholas williams wrote:
>
>> It does nothing of the kind. The use of th for both the voiced and  
>> voiceless continuant is in imiatation of English.
>> In English heath has a final [θ] but Meath has a final [ð].
>> The word mouth has a voiceless final segment if it is a noun and a  
>> voiced segment if it is a verb.
>> Ether has a voiceless medial <th> but either has a voiced one.
>> There is often no way of telling from the spelling which is which  
>> in English.
>> The same is true of Cornish spelling, which is based on English.
>> There is no evidence suggest that [θ] and  [ð] had fallen together  
>> in Cornish.
>>
>> Nicholas
>>
>> On 2010 Du 22, at 10:37, Hewitt, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> The widespread use of <th>, <ʒ> for both surely suggests that they  
>>> may have fallen together as voiced [ð] internally (on the analogy  
>>> of <-s-> [z]; <-f-> [v]); the precise details of final treatment  
>>> between stressed and unstressed final syllables to be worked out,  
>>> quite possibly [ˈ-ð / ˈ--θ] for both inherited /ð/ and /θ/.
>>
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