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Daniel Prohaska daniel at ryan-prohaska.com
Mon Oct 11 11:49:31 BST 2010


Jan, in the SWF <u> is the umbrella graph for RMC /y/ and RLC /i/. /y/ is the vowel in French <lune> or German <grün>.



-----Original Message-----
From: janicelobb at tiscali.co.uk
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 10:13 AM

"Kist/cist is fine for RLC pronunciation of the SWF. As I read my little book of SWF, had it been a long vowel, pronounced -ee-, we would have to use an umbrella graph and spell it "kust"! (cf reeg/rug)





>----Original Message----


>From: everson at evertype.com


>Date: 09/10/2010 15:07 


>To: "Standard Cornish discussion list"<spellyans at kernowek.net>


>Subj: Re: [Spellyans] Box




>On 9 Oct 2010, at 20:55, Craig Weatherhill wrote:




>> This fault of the SWF can be very easily rectified: by using I to 

represent the long vowel, and Y for the short vowel throughout.




>The SWF does use "i" to represent long [iː] in stressed monosyllables. 

But in stressed polysyllables, the SWF uses "y" sometimes for short [ɪ] 

and sometimes for long [iː] that alternates with [eː]. We mark this 

last "ÿ", as you know.




>KS1 proposed "ei" for the sound which alternates, but a lot of people 

weren't comfortable with that.




>> As a morpho-phonemic orthography, one would have expected KK to have 

done this,




>KK also uses "y" sometimes for short [ɪ] and sometimes for what they 

say is long [ɪː] (our long [iː]) that alternates with [eː] in RLC.




>Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/





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