[Spellyans] Box

nicholas williams njawilliams at gmail.com
Sat Oct 9 13:31:45 IST 2010


Kist surely rhymes with Krist and trist and must be understood as long.
The word kyst 'box' doesn't seem to be attested in the texts.
There is a word <gyst> but that has initial [dZ] and means 'joist, beam'.
KK had difficulty with this word and spelt it both <kist> and <kyst>.

On 2010 Hed 9, at 13:19, A. J. Trim wrote:

> The SWF is actually worse than you say here.
> 
> As I understand it, the SWF rules state that either i or y can be long or short, so in the SWF (with no clear rules for using i or y) even kyst would be long, by the rule that the vowel is long before -st. The SWF cannot write this short, unless it writes kisst or kysst - oh dear!
> 
> KS does have clear rules, and can.
> 
> Are there any other words like this (i.e. monosyllables ending in short -ist or -yst) in the SWF or is this a single easily learnt exception?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Andrew J. Trim
> 
> 
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>> SWF gives kist but this must be [kiːst] according to the SWF's rules of length. But Nance and Williams give kyst [kɪst], not *kȳst, and Gendall gives kist [kɪst], not *kîst. A long vowel is incorrect here; the spelling in SWF should be kyst; it is kyst in KS.
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