[Spellyans] loan words

ewan wilson butlerdunnit at ntlworld.com
Wed Feb 23 00:04:41 GMT 2011


Yes, Dan, that's exactly my point: the German coinage exists but the natives 
never seem to have taken to it! Even my old German course book that dates 
back to the 50s has the 'Fon' versions. By contrast, I think pellgowser is 
far more euphonic and just asks to be used!!

Ewan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Prohaska" <daniel at ryan-prohaska.com>
To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] loan words


> German "Fernsprecher" is hardly ever used. Everybody says "Telefon" or 
> "telefonieren".
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 23.02.2011, at 00:14, "ewan wilson" <butlerdunnit at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Craig,
>>
>> I'm not saying anyone in particular is lacking in sanity and perspective, 
>> least of all yourself whose books on Cornish I really highly appreciate!
>> All I'm saying is surely the sane view that gives best perspective on 
>> this is that Cornish has a rich deposit of loan words which lend it 
>> something very distinctive. I DO however like 'native'coinages as well 
>> such as pellgowser which to my ear sounds 'just right' and in an 
>> indefinable and subjective way much better than, say, the German 
>> equivalent.
>>
>> Ewan.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Weatherhill" 
>> <craig at agantavas.org>
>> To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] loan words
>>
>>
>> Ewan wrote that, not me.  I'm apparently the one who is lacking in
>> sanity and perspective.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>> On 22 Whe 2011, at 13:10, nicholas williams wrote:
>>
>>> People sometimes object to verbs in -ya, believing them to be  confined 
>>> largely to Tregear's Homilies.
>>> This is a misconception. I have collected pretty well at random the 
>>> following verbs from texts other than TH:
>>>
>>> abatya BK
>>> arainya BK
>>> ascendya BM
>>> assentya BK, CW
>>> attendya PA, BM, BK, CW
>>> avauncya OM, BK
>>> comondya OM, BM, SA, CW
>>> concernya SA
>>> concêvya BM
>>> confùndya BM
>>> consecratya BM, SA
>>> creatya SA, CW
>>> debatya BM
>>> decernya BM, CW
>>> decêvya PA
>>> defendya PA, SA
>>> deformya CW
>>> demondya SA
>>> departya SA
>>> desîrya PA, BM
>>> devorya BM
>>> dysclôsya CW
>>> dysêsya BM
>>> dysplêsya BM
>>> dyspûtya PC
>>> dystryppya PA
>>> exaltya BM, CW
>>> exîlya OM
>>> forsakya BM, JCH
>>> fùndya BM
>>> gêdya BM
>>> governya (governa) OM, PC, BK, CW
>>> gwardya BK
>>> hernessya BM
>>> inclinya BM, BK
>>> incressya OM, CW
>>> obeya OM, BM
>>> offra SA
>>> presentya CW
>>> preventya CW
>>> procedya BK
>>> promyssya CW
>>> protestya SA
>>> pùnyshya OM, CW
>>> rainya BK, CW
>>> rebukya PA
>>> recêvya (recêva) PA, OM, PC, BM, SA
>>> regardya SA
>>> remembra BM, CW
>>> repentya BM
>>> reportya BK
>>> restorya BM
>>> revertya BK
>>> rewardya OM, PC, RD, BM, CW
>>> separatya SA
>>> soposya BM, BK
>>> sparya OM, PC, BM, CW
>>> spêdya PA, OM, BM, CW
>>> spryngya BK
>>> sùbjectya BK
>>> sygnyfia SA
>>> tormontya OM, BM, Rowe
>>> transformya SA, CW
>>> tùchya BM, SA, BK
>>> ùnderstondya SA
>>> ùttra BK
>>> vexya BM
>>> whyppya PC, BK.
>>>
>>> SA is Sacrament an Alter, a text slightly later than TH. It can be  seen 
>>> that such verbs occur in all texts at all periods. To avoid them
>>> on purist grounds would be inauthentic.
>>>
>>> Nicholas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2011 Whe 22, at 08:55, Craig Weatherhill wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for that bit of sanity and perspective in this, Nicholas!
>>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Spellyans mailing list
>>> Spellyans at kernowek.net
>>> http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net
>>
>> --
>> Craig Weatherhill
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Spellyans mailing list
>> Spellyans at kernowek.net
>> http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Spellyans mailing list
>> Spellyans at kernowek.net
>> http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> Spellyans mailing list
> Spellyans at kernowek.net
> http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net
> 





More information about the Spellyans mailing list