[Spellyans] 'who' in Cornish

Hewitt, Stephen s.hewitt at unesco.org
Mon Jul 18 13:48:34 IST 2011


Almost no Breton-speakers are functionally literate in Breton – perhaps one or two per mil – so I don’t think you can get regional written forms that have any validity. It is true that the most common spelling for the KLT dialects is <piou>, and for Gwened/Vannes <più>, and these are the ones used in the twin variants (KLT and Gwened) of the orthographe universitaire. The majority ZH orthography uses <piv>, to be pronounced /piu/, and the Etrerannyezhel/Interdialectal orthography uses <piw>

 

Steve

 

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From: spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of Herbie Blackburn
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Around Faouet its written <pio> - they don’t use the ZH either.

 

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From: spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of Hewitt, Stephen
Sent: 18 July 2011 12:44
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It is <piv> in the rather unsatisfactory ZH orthography. Etymologically, it is <piw> pronounced (3/4 of the Breton-speaking area) /piu/, extreme NE (Goelo, NEK) /pi(v)/, SE (Gwened/Vannes) /piɥ/. These are the regular reflexes of final <-w>.

 

Steve

 

 

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From: spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of Jon Mills
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 1:36 PM
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Why does Bret. piv have a final <v>?
Ol an gwella,
Jon

 

	----- Original Message -----

	From: nicholas williams

	Sent: 07/18/11 10:15 AM

	To: Standard Cornish discussion list

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	I don't think so. Cornish pyw, W. pwy and Bret. piv are from IE *kwei, *kweis, cf. Irish cia 'who?' and Latin quis. 

	 

	Nicholas

	 

	On 2011 Gor 18, at 10:06, Craig Weatherhill wrote:

	 

	Is this word not a compound of pe/py + yw?  If so, then it must surely be pyw, as SWF writes yw, 'is', not iw.

 




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University of Kent 

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