[Spellyans] gawas 'to get'

Craig Weatherhill craig at agantavas.org
Wed Sep 7 09:15:16 BST 2011

I would certainly call the orthographies of Tregear and Jordan as  
authentic, because they were native writers in a period when the  
language was still fairly widely spoken.  Just as I'd consider the  
widely varied English orthographies of Chaucer and Shakespeare as  
authentic.  Similarly, I view the spellings of Jenner, Nance and  
Nicholas as authentic because each adhered to a principle of closely  
respecting textual Cornish.  RLC is also authentic in that its varied  
orthographies closely follow LC texts or Lhuyd.

I do not consider KK or SWF/M to be authentic because they abandon  
that respect for the traditional in favour of a modern, flawed  
doctrine.  SWF/T I consider to be basically authentic, but with some  
inauthentic features.


On 7 Gwn 2011, at 08:51, Michael Everson wrote:

> On 7 Sep 2011, at 08:27, Ray Chubb wrote:
>>> It's simply not the case that authentic Middle Cornish orthography  
>>> ceased to exist in 1549.
>> I think what we can safely say is that any control over it ceased  
>> to exist.
> There was a continuum of spelling options even before 1549.
> I don't understand how you use "authentic" in this context though.  
> Evidently you think Nance's orthography is authentic, though since  
> you prefer UCR you must agree that Nance's failure to distinguish / 
> ø/ from /y/ (UCR ue from ü) was a mistake. Do you think that  
> Jenner's orthography is authentic? Tregear's? Jordan's?
>> It's a bit like Nicholas abandoning UCR, we all feel free to tinker  
>> or pick and choose from it as we wish.
> Nicholas (and I as a publisher) "abandoned" UCR because we (along  
> with others) realized the value of moving towards an orthography  
> which made use of authentic graphs while also doing a better job at  
> (1) representing the major dialect differences of Revived Cornish  
> (the continuum of choices between RMC, RTC, and RLC) and (2) being  
> unambiguous.
> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
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Craig Weatherhill

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