[Spellyans] gawas 'to get'
ray at spyrys.org
Thu Sep 8 11:24:51 IST 2011
See my previous posting.
On 8 Gwn 2011, at 11:15, Michael Everson wrote:
> On 8 Sep 2011, at 09:48, Ray Chubb wrote:
>> Precisely! and Hebrew has had far more money and academic interest
>> pumped into it than Cornish. So isn't there just a small chance
>> that the Israelis got it right and Nance is to be commended for,
>> independently, coming up with the same approach for Cornish?
> There is no road back to Nancian Cornish.
> UCR rightly corrected Nance's over-use of voiceless consonants in
> final position in monosyllables, and restored the phoneme /ø/ which
> Nance had omitted.
> But UCR still is too difficult for learners, as it does not mark
> many distinctions.
> The SWF goes a long way towards being having a clear link between
> sound and spelling, but is marred by its reliance on arbitrary
> etymological preferences built into KK.
> KS corrects the errors in the SWF and is the only orthography with
> an unambiguous link between spelling and pronunciation.
> Both Jenner and Nance are to be commended for getting things going,
> but we know more about Cornish now than either of them did, and the
> work of later researchers should help us to move on.
> If someone thinks that the corrections in UCR were well-founded,
> then they should give up UC and write UCR. There's no reason to keep
> writing "rak" and "mur" if you know that the pronunciation is
> "rag" [ræːɡ] and "muer" [møːr]~[meːr] (and not [ræk] and
> It is for similar reasons that people may wish to give up UCR and
> write KS: KS is more accurate, and helps to bolster better
> pronunciation. (OK, some people may wish to give up UC or UCR or KK
> and try to use the SWF, but the SWF leaks, and has arbitrary and
> unhelpful KKisms in it.)
> The development of KS has taken a long time. Some people have
> complained that a reference grammar is not available. Of course
> books do not write themselves, and it was in producing the longest-
> ever text in Cornish, An Beybel Sans, with 815,000 words, that we
> discovered pretty much all the orthographic problems that one would
> encounter. A comprehensive *teaching* grammar is now in preparation.
> A reference grammar will be made available after that. And please
> remember, this work is done on a voluntary basis, and is
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