[Spellyans] gawas 'to get'

Ray Chubb ray at spyrys.org
Thu Sep 8 11:24:51 IST 2011


See my previous posting.

On 8 Gwn 2011, at 11:15, Michael Everson wrote:

> On 8 Sep 2011, at 09:48, Ray Chubb wrote:
>
>> Precisely!  and Hebrew has had far more money and academic interest  
>> pumped into it than Cornish.  So isn't there just a small chance  
>> that the Israelis got it right and Nance is to be commended for,  
>> independently, coming up with the same approach for Cornish?
>
> There is no road back to Nancian Cornish.
>
> UCR rightly corrected Nance's over-use of voiceless consonants in  
> final position in monosyllables, and restored the phoneme /ø/ which  
> Nance had omitted.
>
> But UCR still is too difficult for learners, as it does not mark  
> many distinctions.
>
> The SWF goes a long way towards being having a clear link between  
> sound and spelling, but is marred by its reliance on arbitrary  
> etymological preferences built into KK.
>
> KS corrects the errors in the SWF and is the only orthography with  
> an unambiguous link between spelling and pronunciation.
>
> Both Jenner and Nance are to be commended for getting things going,  
> but we know more about Cornish now than either of them did, and the  
> work of later researchers should help us to move on.
>
> If someone thinks that the corrections in UCR were well-founded,  
> then they should give up UC and write UCR. There's no reason to keep  
> writing "rak" and "mur" if you know that the pronunciation is  
> "rag" [ræːɡ] and "muer" [møːr]~[meːr] (and not [ræk] and  
> [myːr]~[miːr].
>
> It is for similar reasons that people may wish to give up UCR and  
> write KS: KS is more accurate, and helps to bolster better  
> pronunciation. (OK, some people may wish to give up UC or UCR or KK  
> and try to use the SWF, but the SWF leaks, and has arbitrary and  
> unhelpful KKisms in it.)
>
> The development of KS has taken a long time. Some people have  
> complained that a reference grammar is not available. Of course  
> books do not write themselves, and it was in producing the longest- 
> ever text in Cornish, An Beybel Sans, with 815,000 words, that we  
> discovered pretty much all the orthographic problems that one would  
> encounter. A comprehensive *teaching* grammar is now in preparation.  
> A reference grammar will be made available after that. And please  
> remember, this work is done on a voluntary basis, and is  
> unremunerated.
>
> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
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