[Spellyans] SWF (t) and Maga web site

[Daniel Prohaska]

Nag ew dhe vos acomptys, sos! Na wruga ve bes leverel hedna drefen bos spellyans KK a **klywes ew udn dra ero ve ow cara dhe gasa dres pub tra!
Dan


On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Ken MacKinnon wrote:

> Mur ras, a Dan ker,
> 
> It was actually clew that I had in mind.  ( Nance gives Clew! Clew! For
> Hear! Hear! - and there is probably a better native Cornish expression
> anyway.   I am afraid what Welsh I can recollect interfered with the memory
> process!
> 
> Gans gorhemmynadow - an ken Ken
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net]
> On Behalf Of Daniel Prohaska
> Sent: 18 August 2012 18:20
> To: Standard Cornish discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] SWF (t) and Maga web site
> 
> Bo clew, clew e'n FSS ;-)
> 
> Ken, 
> It's probably going to be <klewes> in KK by the next dictionary edition
> anyway because I managed to convince Ken George's alter ego on C24 that
> **klywes is most definitely incorrect, something that Nicholas already had
> pointed out to him years ago. I also explained some of Schrijver's
> elaborations on the topic which seemed to convince him. The mistaken root
> *klyw- is on the way out even in KK. Good riddance. 
> Dan
> 
> 
> On Aug 18, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Ken MacKinnon wrote:
> 
>> Clyw! Clyw!  - yn gwyr  - an ken Ken
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net
> [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net]
>> On Behalf Of Hedley Climo
>> Sent: 17 August 2012 22:09
>> To: Standard Cornish discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] SWF (t) and Maga web site
>> 
>> On 2012 Est 17, at 14:56, Nicky Rowe wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, the more longstanding members of language activists are not ready for
>> a single written form.
>> Incorrect. Many of these older people remember the days when there was but
> a
>> single written form, up until 1987, when the KKites engineered the first
>> split in the Revival. Like them, some of us who joined the Revival after
>> that date, like me, still use that form: Unified Cornish.
>> 
>>> The next generation, who were not part of the disputes of the past 25
>> years, want one and are crying out for one.
>> Really? Do you have any evidence to support this claim? It does sound
>> awfully anecdotal.
>> 
>>> Collaborative projects such as localisation and online community-based
>> learning are not viable without a single form.
>> I think not. There are many collaborative projects that have taken place
>> over the last quarter century, despite the lack of a single form. I guess
>> they're made less easy because of the split, but they've hardly been 'not
>> viable'.
>> 
>>> What you all need to be asking yourselves is what will make things easier
>> for the next generation, not how to just get what you want and make things
>> better for just you.
>> Well, what I've asked myself over the last half a dozen years is, "What
> can
>> *I* contribute to the Revival that will help to support it?" My answer is
> to
>> learn the language and to enjoy anc cherish it; to speak it when I have
> the
>> chance, both on- and off-line; and to write, translate and publish in it.
> In
>> this latter field, I've focussed on creating publications (both in print,
>> e-books, audio and video) aimed mainly at children and young learners.
>> 
>> That's MY contribution to the present generation-and to ones to come. As a
>> result, in some 3 years of operation, Gwask an Orlewen has issued some
> three
>> dozen publications, with more to come.
>> 
>> Perhaps what YOU need to ask yourself is, "What contribution have YOU
>> yourself made to the Revival?"
>> 
>>> If you can't agree on a single form - NOT two equal forms - then the next
>> generation will be questioning your fitness to lead the revival.
>> 'Lead the Revival'? This suggests a peculiarly top-down, centralist,
>> authoriarian approach to the Revival. In my view, progress in the Revival
>> over the 110+ years of its existence has been made by individuals-and
> groups
>> of individuals-getting off their bums and DOING something for the revival
> of
>> the language.
>> 
>> Progress has NOT been achieved by people looking around for leaders, or
>> gurus, or figures of authority.
>> 
>> Eddie Climo
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