[Spellyans] SWF (t) and Maga web site

Daniel Prohaska daniel at ryan-prohaska.com
Thu Aug 16 15:01:45 IST 2012


On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Ray Chubb wrote:

> Are we saying that Nance was right all along ? :-)

Orthographically, to a certain extent, however, not phonologically, because he obviously didn't know what t make of the ‹ü› ~ ‹e› words. Tallek sorted this out, but didn't dare change UC. 
Dan 

> 
> On 16 Est 2012, at 13:58, Craig Weatherhill wrote:
> 
>> While mentioning <keus>, "cheese", why is <eu> necessary?   Granted that Breton has <keuz> and Welsh <caws> (apparently a very different vowel from Breton), but Cornish is neither of those.  Late Cornish has <keaz>, and place-names <kez> (with circumflex over E):  Carn Kez, Sennen.  This tells me that, in Cornish, the vowel is a long E, almost "kaiz" in pronunciation.
>> 
>> Craig
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>> 
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>> On 16 Est 2012, at 12:41, Daniel Prohaska wrote:
>> 
>>> On the other hand, many of the SWF <eu> words had both <ü> and <ê> in UC (e.g. <cüs> ~ <kês>), so that <eu> is no worse or better than <ue>. 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> On 16.08.2012, at 13:33, Ray Chubb <ray at spyrys.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Another point is that if you are coming from Unified 'ü' 'ue' is a little more comprehensible.
>>>> 
>>>> On 16 Est 2012, at 11:46, Nicholas Williams wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not wild about eu either, but it is well attested.
>>>>> leun 'full' is attested 22 times (in PA, BM and BK.
>>>>> devn, eus, veur, leuf 'hand', euth 'horror' are also found.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nicholas
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 16 Aug 2012, at 11:01, Ray Chubb wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I continue to use 'ue' in my everyday writing, it's more common in the historical texts and we got such a bad deal at Treyarnon that at present I see no reason to change.
>>>>> 
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