[Spellyans] SWF (t) and Maga web site

Ken MacKinnon ken at ferintosh.org
Mon Aug 20 09:20:06 IST 2012


Mur ras, a Dan ker,

It was actually clew that I had in mind.  ( Nance gives Clew! Clew! For
Hear! Hear! - and there is probably a better native Cornish expression
anyway.   I am afraid what Welsh I can recollect interfered with the memory
process!

Gans gorhemmynadow - an ken Ken

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From: spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net]
On Behalf Of Daniel Prohaska
Sent: 18 August 2012 18:20
To: Standard Cornish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] SWF (t) and Maga web site

Bo clew, clew e'n FSS ;-)

Ken, 
It's probably going to be <klewes> in KK by the next dictionary edition
anyway because I managed to convince Ken George's alter ego on C24 that
**klywes is most definitely incorrect, something that Nicholas already had
pointed out to him years ago. I also explained some of Schrijver's
elaborations on the topic which seemed to convince him. The mistaken root
*klyw- is on the way out even in KK. Good riddance. 
Dan


On Aug 18, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Ken MacKinnon wrote:

> Clyw! Clyw!  - yn gwyr  - an ken Ken
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net
[mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net]
> On Behalf Of Hedley Climo
> Sent: 17 August 2012 22:09
> To: Standard Cornish discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] SWF (t) and Maga web site
> 
> On 2012 Est 17, at 14:56, Nicky Rowe wrote:
>> 
>> No, the more longstanding members of language activists are not ready for
> a single written form.
> Incorrect. Many of these older people remember the days when there was but
a
> single written form, up until 1987, when the KKites engineered the first
> split in the Revival. Like them, some of us who joined the Revival after
> that date, like me, still use that form: Unified Cornish.
> 
>> The next generation, who were not part of the disputes of the past 25
> years, want one and are crying out for one.
> Really? Do you have any evidence to support this claim? It does sound
> awfully anecdotal.
> 
>> Collaborative projects such as localisation and online community-based
> learning are not viable without a single form.
> I think not. There are many collaborative projects that have taken place
> over the last quarter century, despite the lack of a single form. I guess
> they're made less easy because of the split, but they've hardly been 'not
> viable'.
> 
>> What you all need to be asking yourselves is what will make things easier
> for the next generation, not how to just get what you want and make things
> better for just you.
> Well, what I've asked myself over the last half a dozen years is, "What
can
> *I* contribute to the Revival that will help to support it?" My answer is
to
> learn the language and to enjoy anc cherish it; to speak it when I have
the
> chance, both on- and off-line; and to write, translate and publish in it.
In
> this latter field, I've focussed on creating publications (both in print,
> e-books, audio and video) aimed mainly at children and young learners.
> 
> That's MY contribution to the present generation-and to ones to come. As a
> result, in some 3 years of operation, Gwask an Orlewen has issued some
three
> dozen publications, with more to come.
> 
> Perhaps what YOU need to ask yourself is, "What contribution have YOU
> yourself made to the Revival?"
> 
>> If you can't agree on a single form - NOT two equal forms - then the next
> generation will be questioning your fitness to lead the revival.
> 'Lead the Revival'? This suggests a peculiarly top-down, centralist,
> authoriarian approach to the Revival. In my view, progress in the Revival
> over the 110+ years of its existence has been made by individuals-and
groups
> of individuals-getting off their bums and DOING something for the revival
of
> the language.
> 
> Progress has NOT been achieved by people looking around for leaders, or
> gurus, or figures of authority.
> 
> Eddie Climo
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