[Spellyans] Degol Peran lowen dhewgh!
j.mills at email.com
Thu Mar 8 08:37:21 GMT 2012
/Dugol/ is attested in Beunans Meriasek:
"han tresse meys guyngala dugol myhall byth henna in plu wyn noala sensys ha meryasek benytha inna pur guir campollys"
'And the third [market], that one will be held in the holy parish of Noyal, September, Michaelmas; and Meriasek will certainly always be mentioned at them.'
[Ton 1504: 2200-4]
"dugol myhal yv henna"
'That is Michaelmas'
[Ton 1504: 2077]
"dugol myhall byth henna"
'That will be Michaelmas'
[Ton 1504: 2201]
In Bewnans Ke, we find "woyl Myhal":
"Ny gans Arthor in e sal | kyn tryken bys woyl Myhal | wylcum ny a vyth ena"
'Although we stay with Arthur in his hall until Michaelmas, we shall be welcome there'
[Bewnans Ke: 1376-8]
Ol an gwella,
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Weatherhill
Sent: 03/07/12 05:40 PM
To: Standard Cornish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Degol Peran lowen dhewgh!
Is the word attested in any source prior to the Late period? Late Cornish attestations are: diggel (traditional, no exact source) duggel (as above) degl (Lhuyd - who also lists goll and gol [circumflex over U) The first two, listed as Traditional (I'm using Gendall's source dictionary here) are likely to be dialect sources, leaving just the Lhuyd reference. On this meagre evidence, I can't see the first element as anything but de' (for dedh) "day", which would tie in with the dialect expression "feasten day", and in the days of the week (De Yow, etc.) Unfortunately, everyone went off at a tangent from my original point, which was that the correct way to write "feast of St Piran", "feast of St John" and "feast of St Sythney" would be, respectively,: Golperan; Golowan; Golsydhny. Not Gool Peran or De'Gol Peran, etc. Golowan is noted by Lhuyd as Goluan (circumflex over U); the other two by place-name evidence which, again, too many folk are ignoring. Craig > I think du- in ‹dugol› represents an old dative. The same we find > in -dhyw in ‹hedhyw› .That's why I wrote ‹dywgol›. > Dan > > > On Mar 6, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Eddie Climo wrote: > >> On 2012 Mer 5, at 17:30, Michael Everson wrote: >>> …I am satisfied with degol [ˈdɛgɔl]. >> >> Nance offers degol, dugol, gol. This is quite satisfactory for MC >> in my view. >> >> *Dywgol looks like a dual form of 'col'; thus, 'meneth dywgol' >> would suggest a 'twin-peaked mountain' rather than a ?'holiday >> mountain'. >> >> Anyway, degol/dugol/gol Pyran/Peran lowen dheugh why oll, a gowetha! >> >> Eddie Climo >> _______________________________________________ >> Spellyans mailing list >> Spellyans at kernowek.net >> http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Spellyans mailing list > Spellyans at kernowek.net > http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net _______________________________________________ Spellyans mailing list Spellyans at kernowek.net http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net
Dr. Jon Mills,
University of Kent
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