[Spellyans] Is there a future for the SWF?

Craig Weatherhill craig at agantavas.org
Sun May 20 12:19:02 IST 2012

The "majority" argument is still being used.  I think it's laughable.   
What significance does a majority of a very few users really have?


On 20 Me 2012, at 11:54, Nicky Rowe wrote:

> Could it also be that those who do want to accommodate traditional  
> forms in the SWF are having incredible difficulty in doing so simply  
> because there's no place for them? If everything is done using the K  
> forms then it's difficult to find an area where the C forms can be  
> given a purpose. To my mind the SWF has been the wrong way around  
> since 2008. The K graphs became the main form because a majority of  
> people used them, but this decision didn't take into account the  
> emotional connection to the traditional forms. The traditional forms  
> are never going to go away - the connection towards the traditional  
> texts, the placenames and 80 years of pre-KK revival means that  
> there is always going to be a significant section of people who will  
> want to use them - for better or for worse. I'm not denying there is  
> an attachment to K forms among many, but it's relatively short-term  
> and isn't linked so strongly to history.
> Therefore surely the best solution would be to switch main and  
> traditional forms around. It would then be much easier to  
> accommodate the K forms as a side form - they can be used in  
> beginners material, moving on to traditional forms at more advanced  
> stages. The question when the SWF was created should not have been  
> "which form should be the main form?" but "which form will be  
> easiest to accommodate as a side form?"
> Nicky
> For cooperation, Maga needs people who actually operate. If  
> traditional graph users largely stay out of the picture, then they  
> have no reason to see the need for their use. You're there, I'm  
> there, but I can't think of anyone who is as adamant about their use  
> apart from us. A few swing both ways and aren't bothered by it…
> I don't wish to place blame or say "it's there fault" , but I cannot  
> stop thinking that if Nicholas's excellent translations (THE  
> Bible!!!!!!!, among many others) and Michael's beautiful  
> publications had been done in the SWF/T it could have strengthened  
> our position …. well I don't know by what factor, but considerably  
> anyway… I know Michael's position is that KS is based on the SWF and  
> corrects its mistakes, - to most people at Maga, KS is just another  
> Cornish orthography they don't use or support, on par with UC/R, RLC  
> and KK… anyway, definitely NOT SWF, so it's benevolently tolerated,  
> their publications listed, but not otherwise actively supported.
> Dan
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