[Spellyans] Is there a future for the SWF?

Craig Weatherhill craig at agantavas.org
Fri May 25 09:34:40 IST 2012


Indeed.  Dan Rogerson MP has demanded an apology from the London  
Olympic Committee.  I have a feeling that Seb Coe (as Chairman) will  
be inundated.

Craig



On 25 Me 2012, at 09:21, Ken MacKinnon wrote:

> Yes – this one will run and run !
>
> -        An ken Ken
>
> From: spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net 
> ] On Behalf Of Craig Weatherhill
> Sent: 25 May 2012 07:31
> To: Standard Cornish discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Is there a future for the SWF?
>
> The absurd thing about the Dolly Pentreath plaque in Mousehole is -  
> that it's in English only!
>
> I have a fond memory of being in Mousehole one summer morning.  A  
> whole coach-load of tourists was stood in front of the plaque as  
> their guide (who had a broad London accent) read it out and added:   
> "Of course, nobody speaks Cornish now".  So, from behind them, I  
> proceeded to repeat the text of the plaque in Cornish then said to  
> the guide:  "I think you need to revise that statement, ole pard.   
> There are plenty who speak it, most of 'em a lot better than me".
>
> A second Olympic row has blown up, with a Cornish MP demanding an  
> apology after the last Cornish torch-bearer in Saltash had the flag  
> of St Piran snatched from him by one of the grey-clad Metropolitan  
> police escort runners, who then proceeded to crush it up into a ball  
> in his hands - something you wouldn't do to another nation's flag.   
> According to the torch-bearer. the problem was not so much the flag,  
> but the words: Cornwall/Kernow in one of its lower quarters.   
> Obviously, Cornwall wasn't the problem, leaving only "Kernow" which  
> had been declared a "political message" by someone, who then passed  
> the instruction to get the flag removed passed on via the escort  
> runner's earpiece.  So, the native name of Cornwall, recorded as  
> early as 400 AD, is a "political message"?  Taken in tandem with  
> Land's End, and the obliteration of the Cornish language name there,  
> it seems that London has a problem with the Cornish language!  As  
> you can imagine, there is all hell to pay!
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> On 24 Me 2012, at 22:48, ewan wilson wrote:
>
>
> The complaints about confusion is a lot of balderdash. I have  
> personally witnessed tourists coming out of Pezance Station and  
> delighted to see the bi-lingual welcome sign!
> I've also seen folk fascinated in Mousehole, when they read the  
> Dolly Pentreath plaque.
> If folk do object they must be pathetically small-minded, and very  
> easily intimidated if they think English ascendancy is going to  
> crumble in the face of a few public signs, respecting, if nothing  
> else, the native culture of a place!
>
> Ewan.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ray Chubb
> To: Standard Cornish discussion list
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Is there a future for the SWF?
>
> One of the comments that was made was that the two forms were  
> causing confusion to visitors.  I haven't seen the original sign  
> were the two forms in the same script?
>
> I have always thought that the best way to avoid confusion is to use  
> different type scripts for each version as is done in Ireland.
>
>
> On 23 Me 2012, at 06:56, Craig Weatherhill wrote:
>
>
> When (not if) the prominent bilingual sign is restored, you will be  
> pleased to know that the Signage Panel has agreed that it should  
> read:  PEDN AN WLAS, yes, with the pre-occlusion.  I have managed to  
> get a policy agreed that pre-occlusion in place-names will be  
> written where it is historically found.  Not an easy achievement  
> when you consider that the Signage Panel and its active advisors  
> consists of 4 KK-SWF/K users; one who takes a "broad church" view  
> (Rod Lyon), and myself, the only traditional Cornish representative.
>
> Ray Chubb
>
> Portreth
> Kernow
>
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