[Spellyans] In The Year

A. J. Trim ajtrim at msn.com
Mon Nov 5 23:55:55 GMT 2012


Sorry. My mistake.
In Gwavas, it's the possessive pronoun/adjective <'n ... nei> that makes the 
whole thing definite.
The form <i'n vledhen 1887> appears to be acceptable for modern use.


Regards,

Andrew J. Trim



-----Original Message----- 
From: A. J. Trim
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 11:29 PM
To: Standard Cornish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] In The Year

Thanks Nicholas and Michael.

Yes, I think you are correct. <i'n vledhen 1887>  matches the English, Irish
and Welsh.

However, I think that Gwavas must have been saying "in a year of our Lord
God, [which is named/numbered] 1710".
The apostrophe in Gwavas' <a'n> seems to indicate that <blethen> is
indefinite. If 1710 was seen as a proper noun, that would make the whole
thing definite, so "the" between "in" and "year" was not required.

In <i'n vledhen 1887>, "1887" is an adjective which limits the scope of
<vledhen> -- to such an extent that <vledhen 1887> becomes a proper noun for
that period of time. Therefore, perhaps, it should be <in Bledhen 1887>, and
that would be consistent with Gwavas.

Regards,

Andrew J. Trim



-----Original Message----- 
From: Michael Everson
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 12:59 PM
To: Standard Cornish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] In The Year

On 5 Nov 2012, at 01:29, A. J. Trim <ajtrim at msn.com> wrote:

> "in the year 1887" is short for "in the 1887th year (of our Lord)"

No, it isn't. It means "in the year [which is named/numbered] 1887".

Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/


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