[Spellyans] The importance of Language Teaching Methodology

Jon Mills j.mills at email.com
Fri Nov 16 12:59:38 GMT 2012

In relation to the unsuccessful teaching of Irish in schools,
 "Pupil participation in the Irish class
 Observation of individual pupils in each class by Inspectors showed that about half of all pupil ‘behaviours’ during the Irish lesson consisted of the pupil speaking individually (and in Irish in 91% of cases). The results also showed that (i) pupil speech was not produced very often in the context of real communication or of meaning negotiation, (ii) pupils with lower levels of ability in Irish spoke less often than other pupils, (iii) when pupils with lower levels of ability in Irish were silent, they were less attentive to the lesson than pupils with higher levels of ability who remained silent, and (iv) pupils spoke more often and for longer in classes which emphasised communicative teaching activities"
 John Harris (2006) "Irish in Primary Schools: Long-Term National Trends in Achievement" p.8.

 Ol an gwella,

----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Weatherhill
Sent: 11/16/12 12:43 PM
To: Standard Cornish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] UC/UCR

 By the same premise, Cornish is doomed. Cornish hasn't been taught by native speakers to their children since the 1840s. 

 The schools are the only way left to us to present Cornish to future generations, and ensure its future. I accept that this might not have been overly successful in Ireland, but that need not necessarily be the case in Cornwall. Moreover, the Irish situation is one which can be learned from, and corrected, by Cornish education authorities. The Welsh education programme can also inform us.

 MAGA has signally failed us in this regard in its 5-year existence. There is no reason, other than political, why Cornish should not in Cornish schools right now.

 If we write off the schools, then we might just as well write off Cornish altogether, because it will have no future. Less negativity, people, and more resolve!


 On 2012 Du 16, at 11:43, Nicholas Williams wrote:

I taught Irish in university for 30 years. The teaching of Irish in schools is so faulty, that in some ways it has done more harm than good.
90 years after independence Irish is hardly spoken at all. There is no daily newspaper, no weekly magazine.
 And people are even proud to declare that they know no Irish.
Many public notices in Irish are incorrectly spelt or meaningless but that doesn't matter because people don't see them.
They have been turned off Irish by having it badly taught to them in school.
The only people who speak Irish are those who learnt it from their parents.
Mura bhfuil sí ón gcliabhán agat, níl sí agat ar chor ar bith 'If you haven't it [Irish] from the cradle, you haven't it at all].
Schools in this matter are useless.


 On 16 Nov 2012, at 11:13, Michael Everson wrote:
 The schools will not save or restore Cornish any more in Cornwall than they did in Ireland. _______________________________________________
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 Dr. Jon Mills, 
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