[Spellyans] Fw: Cornish in a Thriller! & Place Name Query ForCraig

Craig Weatherhill craig at agantavas.org
Thu Sep 6 23:36:01 IST 2012


No, on the edge of St Ives, between there and Carbis Bay.

The other place I mentioned, Gwealcarn, was totally obliterated by the  
Giew Mine at Cripple's Ease (just N of the Engine Inn).  Field-names  
apart, I can't think of any settlement name with <gweal> west of those  
two.

Craig




On 6 Gwn 2012, at 21:31, ewan wilson wrote:

> Thanks, Craig, for the prompt reply.
> I'd never heard of her before, either, but came across three of her  
> books in a charity shop and as this one was set in Cornwall I  
> thought it the next best thing to visiting it which I can't do this  
> year.
> It's a wee bit 'slow' for a thriller, to be honest, but all the  
> Penwith references make it fascinating. And she does seem to have  
> done her homework on Cornish culture.
> I wonder if she was just taking some 'poetic licence' with the  
> topography, especially as St Edzell is obviously fictitious, but  
> from the decriptions can only be either St Ives or Penzance.  But  
> the way she mentions the 'direct route' from there to Minack makes  
> it sound as if you hit St Buryan first. Chy an Gweal...is that on  
> the outskirts of Penzance?
>
> Ewan.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Craig Weatherhill
> To: Standard Cornish discussion list
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 7:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Fw: Cornish in a Thriller! & Place Name  
> Query ForCraig
>
> Well, there are places with Gweal in their name:  Gwealcarn,  
> Towednack;  Chy an Gweal, St Ives, to name just two, but there's no  
> place called Gweal (as a simplex element), apart from Gweal, Scilly,  
> which is a contraction of *gwydh-yel, "tree-grown" (it's far from  
> being that now, but probably was in antiquity).
>
> I must admit, I've never heard of the book or its author.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> On 6 Gwn 2012, at 18:46, ewan wilson wrote:
>
>> Think this went the wrong way and should have come here!
>> Ewan.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: ewan wilson
>> To: spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net
>> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 6:43 PM
>> Subject: Cornish in a Thriller! & Place Name Query For Craig
>>
>> One does come across Cornish in the most peculiar places!
>> I have been reading Wheel Fortune, a 'suspense thriller' written by  
>> a Karen Campbell and published by Wm. Collins&Sons back in 1973.  
>> The title's a play on the word 'Wheal', as it refers to a  
>> presumably fictitious Cornish tin mine somewhere on the Penwith  
>> Peninsula.
>> Anyway, Miss Campbell obviously knew her UC as she has one old  
>> Cornish woman welcome back her young friend with the greeting:
>> ' Da yu genef agas gweles.'
>> This young woman, having been raised in Cornwall, recalls at a  
>> later stage in the story some Cornish she knew:
>> 'Byth dorn rever dhe'n tavas re hyr.'
>>
>> At a crucial point in the action she is lured to the Minack Theatre  
>> and she writes:
>> ' The direct route from Sr Edzell's to Minack is via St Buryan and  
>> Gweal- but I took the roundabout devious way on the unmade roads  
>> over the moor.'
>> Now, I think St Edzell's is supposed to be either St Ives or  
>> Penzance but I cannot work out if there actually is a 'Gweal'  
>> around the Penwith Peninsula. If not, i'm baffled why she should  
>> mention an actual spot like St Buryan yet ficionalise a 'Gweal'!  
>> Craig- any ideas?
>> I know next to nothing about this author, save that she penned a  
>> few 'suspense' novels in the early 70s and dedicated one to a  
>> 'Catherine Campbell McNeill of Kilchoman', presumably a relative  
>> and obviously Scottish as the name had hinted.
>> I am left fascinated about how she came to know at least a working  
>> smattering of UC!!!
>> Sorry this is a bit off topic but I thought Craig'd be worth while  
>> consulting and you'd all like to know the unlikely reach of Cornish!
>>
>> Ewan.
>>
>>
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