[Spellyans] Collated SWF Review Issues 4.) & 5.)

Daniel Prohaska daniel at ryan-prohaska.com
Tue Apr 30 11:56:25 IST 2013


Thanks, Chris. 
Sorry, I was unclear, I was able to find Gendall's form, but not an original textual attestation ‹kîran›, only Hawke's ‹keeren›. 
Dan


On Apr 30, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Chris Parkinson wrote:

> Dan, it’s in his Practical dictionary of Cornish, followed by the abbreviation MMS
> Chris
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> From: Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Prohaska
> Sent: 30 April 2013 11:10
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> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Collated SWF Review Issues 4.) & 5.)
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> Jan, Michael, 
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> ‹curun› 'crown' is indeed a bit of a problematic word, as we cannot say for certain how it was pronounced in Cornish. Here are the attestations I could fin:
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> curun (VC), curyn (PC, RD, TH, JK), guryn (PC, RD, TH), curen (BM), cvryñ (BK), cvryn (BK), keeren (H), ᵹẏryn (Lh) corun(Pr); 
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> cf. MB curun, B kurun; W corun, coron; < L corōnā;  
>  
> I can't find Gendall's ‹kîran› anywhere but it looks as though he bases it on Hawk's ‹keeren›. 
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> Dan
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>  
> On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Michael Everson wrote:
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> On 30 Apr 2013, at 08:19, Janice Lobb <janicelobb at gmail.com> wrote:
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> "crown"  is a good example of the problem. The SWF dictionary gives curun;kurun giving no indication that the two [u]s are different. Dick has kîran giving a much better pronunciation guide. I don’t know what KS does.
> 
> cùrun [ˈkʊɾən] or more narrowly [ˈkʊɾᵻn] 
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> Lhuyd writes ‹tan ᵹẏryn› [tən ˈɡərɪn]
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> I would read ‹kîran› as [ˈkiːrən] and would treat this as a (?rather) late metathesized form /ˈkʊɾᵻn/ > /ˈkᵻɾʊn/. The texts give mostly ‹curun› amd ‹curyn› I believe.
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