[Spellyans] Collated SWF Review Issues 4.) & 5.)

Janice Lobb janicelobb at gmail.com
Tue Apr 30 14:25:47 IST 2013


perhaps Hawk's keeren was the latest indication to pronunciation Dick could
find - if there is no other word with the same set of consonants.maybe it
doesn't matter how we pronounce it



On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Daniel Prohaska
<daniel at ryan-prohaska.com>wrote:

> Jan, Michael,
>
> ‹curun› 'crown' is indeed a bit of a problematic word, as we cannot say
> for certain how it was pronounced in Cornish. Here are the attestations I
> could fin:
>
> *curun* (VC), *curyn* (PC, RD, TH, JK), *guryn* (PC, RD, TH), *curen*(BM),
> *cvryñ* (BK), *cvryn* (BK), *keeren* (H), *ᵹẏryn* (Lh) *corun* (Pr);
>
> cf. MB *curun*, B *kurun*; W *corun*, *coron*; < L *corōnā; *
>
> I can't find Gendall's ‹kîran› anywhere but it looks as though he bases it
> on Hawk's ‹keeren›.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Michael Everson wrote:
>
> On 30 Apr 2013, at 08:19, Janice Lobb <janicelobb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "crown"  is a good example of the problem. The SWF dictionary gives
> curun;kurun giving no indication that the two [u]s are different. Dick has
> kîran giving a much better pronunciation guide. I don’t know what KS does.
>
>
> cùrun [ˈkʊɾən] or more narrowly [ˈkʊɾᵻn]
>
> Lhuyd writes ‹tan ᵹẏryn› [tən ˈɡərɪn]
>
> I would read ‹kîran› as [ˈkiːrən] and would treat this as a (?rather) late
> metathesized form /ˈkʊɾᵻn/ > /ˈkᵻɾʊn/. The texts give mostly ‹curun› amd
> ‹curyn› I believe.
>
>
>
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