[Spellyans] The sound of r

Ken MacKinnon ken at ferintosh.org
Fri Dec 13 06:09:58 GMT 2013

To say nothing of the Norfolk Kipper Family's song in praise of their native
county, 'Norfolk - and good'!


-        An Ken ken


From: Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of
Nicholas Williams
Sent: 12 December 2013 21:08
To: Standard Cornish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] The sound of r


No it is common in much of England. No Englishman or Englishwoman says
Against the LawR.

That is what you hear.

The non-rhotic English speaker says, for example, It was against the law
rafter that.

You syllabify as against the lawr, but this is impossible for a speaker who
does not pronounce r at the end of a syllable.

It is certainly not an "Estuary English" feature. The term Estuary English
is a disparaging term. I think it must refer to a rather slight Cockney
tinge to Southern English. It's a rather offensive term

because Standard English is historically the dialect of London. 

Since the 1950s BBC announcers have been heard to say Waw Office for War
Office, because they are so anxious to avoid

the intrusive r that they leave it out when it is there. They say waw for
war, as I do. And can only say waw roffice. 

I have heard people in London say Emma rAnn for Emma Ann.

There was a popular song in 1968 which had the line 'I love Jennifer Eccles
and I know that she loves me'.


The syllabification was clearly Jennifa Reccles. The lead singer was Allan
Clarke who was from Manchester.

The English dialect of Manchester is non-rhotic. 

Hence the Mancunian joke (which must be told with a Mancunian accent):

How can you afford to go on all these cruises?

I work for Cunard 

So do I, but I can't afford cruises.



On occasion the Beatles, from Liverpool, also non-rhotic can be heard
inserting an intrusive r.

Definitely not a feature solely of "Estuary English".





On 12 Dec 2013, at 10:11, kinhelfa . wrote:

For instance 'Against the law' is often heard as 'Against the LawR.' Verry
peculiarr!! Is this an invasive 'Estuary English' feature?




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