[Spellyans] The sound of r

Lowe Jenefer jlowe at cornwall.gov.uk
Fri Dec 13 12:41:03 GMT 2013

May I also point out that when confronted with a microphone, even the
best of speakers will often falter - in any language! For myself I would
rather hear someone speaking naturally and with some questionable
pronunciations thrown in, than hear someone who is so careful about
trying to stick to an aspirational pronunciation (of whatever
persuasion) that they lose all semblance of fluency. 


There are also a number of speakers (and I would count myself among
them) who began learning Cornish in the seventies, when a lot of the
Cornish pronunciation around was very English and RP, and have since
gone through quite a number of different iterations. This makes it
inevitable that we have speakers whose Cornish pronunciation is mixed
and probably not what anyone would aspire to - add a microphone and
general nervousness and I am sure it often does not come out as
intended! It is also inevitable that as Cornish speakers come together
more, become accustomed to each other's pronunciation and become more
fluent, pronunciation will alter - surely that is also the sign of a
living language? 


Jenefer Lowe

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From: Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of
Linus Band
Sent: 13 December 2013 08:55
To: Standard Cornish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] The sound of r


May I suggest that if people are so frustrated with the pronunciation on
RanG that they just offer to do some recordings for it every now and
then themselves? I've very often noticed that Matthi was looking for
people to record something for the podcast but no one responded at all.
>From what I understand, Matthi is not interested in the 'politics', so I
can't see why anyone would not be allowed to be on the podcast. RanG is
the most visible piece of electronic media that the Cornish language
community has and I think that it should be appreciated how much it does
for the community. It's a fun programme. 


All the best,



2013/12/13 Ken MacKinnon <ken at ferintosh.org>

To be fair to MAGA, they represent the Partnership, Craig, they have
resources, few paid staff, and a very substantial slate of things which
to be done.

- an Ken ken

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From: Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of
Sent: 12 December 2013 21:36
To: Standard Cornish discussion list

Subject: Re: [Spellyans] The sound of r

Yes, not a very good attitude on MAGA's part, is it?


On 2013 Kev 12, at 20:51, Michael Everson wrote:

> On 12 Dec 2013, at 17:01, Craig Weatherhill <craig at agantavas.org>
>> I'm not prepared to deride some speakers on Radyo an G. for the very
reasons you give, Eddie.  I'd just like them to look more closely at
> I have been offering for years to transcribe some of the recordings
has, but to date the offer has not been taken up.
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