[Spellyans] The sound of r

christian.semmens at gmail.com christian.semmens at gmail.com
Sun Dec 15 10:41:40 GMT 2013


I only used schwa as an illustration. It is almost like an extra 'a' on the end. War becomes something close to "wa-wah".
This phone won't do IPA.


On 14/12/2013 22:27 ewan wilson wrote:

As a Scot who works alongside a genuine 'Cockney' Eastender I can only say that my perception of the 'extra bit' of sound in sich instances is 'r' rather than the 'pale vowel' schwa sound. Other Scots colleagues perceive it likewise, so it's not just my own admittedly far from acute phonetic grasp. 
If it is indeed 'shwa' is there an explanation why we Scots are more inclined to perceive it as R ? The  London guy who produces such perceived pronunciation is not himself sure what sound exactly he's automatically making!!
 
Ewan.
 
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Perhaps he has a rhotic accent and is hearing the peculiar extra schwa as -ar? I don't know, perhaps he can clarify? 




On 12 December 2013 22:36, Nicholas Williams <njawilliams at gmail.com> wrote:

Then why did he write schwa as R? 


On 12 Dec 2013, at 22:33, Christian Semmens wrote:

On an earlier subject, I think the LawR pronunciation Ewan referred to might be a representation of the extra vowel like sound added to the end of East-end accent, like "Law-ah" and "Waw-ah" for Law and War? Is this the case?



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